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Mosby

(16,328 posts)
Sat May 17, 2014, 07:49 PM May 2014

Poll: Americans Overwhelmingly Blame Palestinians for Breakdown in Talks

A poll released this morning by The Israel Project (TIP) shows that voters overwhelmingly hold the Palestinian Authority (PA) responsible for the recent breakdown in peace talks and overwhelmingly agree with the stance – emphasized by both the Israeli government and the State Department – that Jerusalem can’t be expected to negotiate with an anticipated unity government that includes the designated terror group Hamas.

The group of 1,595 likely voters was among other things asked to respond to a range of “narrative” questions to evaluate how the public debate over the Palestinian unity agreement was progressing. For each question, they were asked to evaluate the Israeli position and the Palestinian position. The results were not close. Two-thirds of Americans (66%-34%) sided with the Israelis on the how the Palestinians’ move will affect the peace process:

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The Daily Beast conveyed remarks from TIP’s President and CEO Josh Block on the overall public debate, and on the specific findings of the poll:

“Americans simply don’t buy efforts being made by some to blame the impasse on Israel,” said Block. “It doesn’t matter how old they are, or what party they belong to, voters understand that Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas turned his back on peace when he abandoned negotiations, turned to the international community to attack Israel, and announced a unity agreement with the Iran-backed terror group Hamas in the middle of Secretary Kerry’s effort to keep talks going.”


http://www.thetower.org/0322-poll-americans-overwhelmingly-blame-palestinians-for-breakdown-in-talks/
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Poll: Americans Overwhelmingly Blame Palestinians for Breakdown in Talks (Original Post) Mosby May 2014 OP
How many of those knew talks were going on? n/t kickysnana May 2014 #1
Besides that how many can find Israel, or the West Bank and gaza on a map? R. Daneel Olivaw May 2014 #7
I'm amazed they found 1595 Americans who Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #2
Too funny..thanks for posting. Efforts by some to blame Israel...like Indyk and Kerry?? lol. n/t Jefferson23 May 2014 #3
No surprise there. The US public knows next to nothing about the issues. BillZBubb May 2014 #4
Aha, ahhh ahahahahahahaha... Scootaloo May 2014 #5
who did they poll, the JDL lol nt msongs May 2014 #6
A poll released this morning by The Israel Project... R. Daneel Olivaw May 2014 #8
and it was an online poll too a sure scientific method azurnoir May 2014 #9
Paragon Insights? Scootaloo May 2014 #10
OMFG!!! R. Daneel Olivaw May 2014 #11

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
2. I'm amazed they found 1595 Americans who
Sat May 17, 2014, 07:57 PM
May 2014

actually were paying attention at all to the peace talks. But it's hardly surprising that the overall takeaway is that 'Americans overwhelmingly blame the Palestinians' when that's the only narrative presented on mainstream American media. I know that's the only way I've seen it portrayed on local or national news shows. The only place I've seen any other possible narrative at all was in online forums.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
4. No surprise there. The US public knows next to nothing about the issues.
Sat May 17, 2014, 08:51 PM
May 2014

The right wing noise machine pushes Israeli propaganda. Plus, the corporate media keeps the reporting as one sided, the Israeli side, as possible.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
5. Aha, ahhh ahahahahahahaha...
Sat May 17, 2014, 10:36 PM
May 2014


Okay, okay. Whoo.

so. First interesting discovery? with the "What is your opinion of person X?" you see a startling result. If you ask the polled people "What do you think of Mahmoud Abbas" the result is mostly "Who?" - on the other hand you ask the same people "what do you think of Palestinian Authority president Mahmoud Abbas," the results are suddenly "VERY UNFAVORABLE OMG!" You get the exact same result with Ismael Haniyeh vs. "Hamas prime Minister Ismael Haniyeh."

This is a glimmering clue that perhaps the American discourse on the subject is not actually based rationality and and information, but rather the knee-jerk, "know it with my gut" belief that Palestine = bad. And when I say "glimmering clue" I mean "lighthouse beacon to the face."

Next, it presents two unrelated statements - one from Israel, one from Palestine - as somehow being related and asks the polled which they agree with. One statement is of course, Israel's usual "OMG U WANT TO KILL THE JEWS LIKE NAZIS HOW CAN WE TALK TO YOU?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!" nonsense, while Palestine's is a tepid advocacy for a unity government.

Since we've already established we're not dealing with particularly informed people whose responses are purely Pavlovian, we can guess the result without actually having to study the numbers.

The next question after that is about the failure of negotiations. Here's the phrasing:
Following the announcement of the Palestinian unity government, peace talks between Israelis and Palestinians came to a halt. Each side has blamed the other for the negotiations stopping, please indicate which side you agree with more.

This is called a leading question. Here, allow me to demonstrate.
Following the refusal of Israel to honor agreed-upon deals integral to negotiations, peace talks between Israelis and Palestinians came to a halt...


See the lead? Further it ignores that peace talks were scheduled to close anyway.

Also the Tower is the mouth organ of TIP, so their glowing report on TIP's results can probably safely be met with a polite cough under hte best of circumstances.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
9. and it was an online poll too a sure scientific method
Sun May 18, 2014, 01:48 AM
May 2014
This poll was conducted from May 2-4, 2014, among a national sample of 1595 likely 2014 voters. The interviews were conducted online by Paragon Insights. The data were weighted to approximate a target sample of likely voters based on age, race/ethnicity, gender, educational attainment, region, annual household income, home ownership status and marital status. Results from the full survey have a margin of error of plus or minus two percentage points.


doesn't say how these likely voters were chosen though
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