Hamas bans U.N. book on human rights

[King_David]

Text is seen as ignoring culture, denying need to fight Israel
AP
FEB 14, 2014
GAZA CITY, GAZA STRIP – The Gaza Strip’s Hamas authorities have blocked a U.N. refugee agency from introducing textbooks promoting human rights into local schools, saying the text ignores Palestinian cultural mores and focuses too heavily on “peaceful” means of conflict resolution.

Motesem al-Minawi, spokesman for the Hamas-run Education Ministry, said Thursday that the government believes the curriculum does not match the “ideology and philosophy” of the local population.

He said the textbooks, used in grades 7 through 9, did not sufficiently address Palestinian suffering and did not acknowledge the right to battle Israel. “There is a tremendous focus on the peaceful resistance as the only tool to achieve freedom and independence,” he said.

Hamas, which has killed hundreds of Israelis in suicide bombings and other attacks, says that “armed resistance” is a key component of its struggle against Israel.

The group also objected to the books’ inclusion of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, a document approved by the U.N. General Assembly in 1948 that recognizes “the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family.” Hamas believes that certain parts of the declaration violate Islamic law, including the right of people of different faiths to marry and the right to change one’s religion.


http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2014/02/14/world/hamas-bans-u-n-book-on-human-rights/#.Uw_IG_ldV8E

[NaturalHigh]

1. It seems like I always hear that Israel is the bad guy in all this.

Haven't I heard terms regarding Israel like "apartheid" and "genocide"?

I will never understand some people's unqualified support for Palestinians in their conflict with Israel.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

2. You're not going to find anybody in I/P that supports Hamas, but incidentally

Israel acts the part of an apartheid state.

[Scootaloo]

3. I will never understand how someone who thinks Hamas = Palestinians...

Manages to not drown in their own saliva at night.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

5. .

[King_David]

7. Hamas is a Palestinian group

But it's difficult to gauge their support among the Palestinian people .

I think they eventually will break Gaza away and seperate from the rest of Palestine into an independent State of Gaza as it defacto currently is.

[NaturalHigh]

12. Didn't Hamas win the parliamentary election...

in the Palestinian territory a few years back?

[Scootaloo]

15. Didn't the Republicans win in congress the last few elections running?

[NaturalHigh]

20. Yes, and the Republicans represent the views of a lot of Americans.

I can only assume that Hamas represents the views of a lot of Palestinians. Would you assume that they don't?

[Scootaloo]

21. But not all Americans, which is the point I'm making

Yes, a good number of Palestinians voted for Hamas. Not all. Nor is the Palestinian body politic defined by Hamas. Nor for that matter, do they even see Hamas in the same light as you do.

Do you know why Palestinians voted for Hamas? No doubt it's because they're all dog-eating savages out to push the Jews into the sea, right? Because every moment of every Palestinian's life revolves entirely around Jews, of course. Cooking dinner? Thinking about Jews. Fixing a flat? Thinking about Jews. Sleeping? Dreaming about Jews. Giving birth to twins? Mother and both newborns have Jews on the brain. Right? That's how you believe it works, yes?

It couldn't be because Fatah is a notoriously corrupt good ol' boy party disconnected from the everyday concerns of Palestinians, while Hamas ran on an anti-corruption platform and made good use of their multiple non-militant branches and services to make the case that they're there with the "little guy."

Now a valid argument could be made that that's bullshit - or more accurately that's politics - but your attempt to cast the whole of the people of Palestine as arm-locked with Hamas' militancy is not only invalid on a factual level but also just fucking stupid on the face of it.

[NaturalHigh]

22. But the fact remains that a great many Palestinians...

support Hamas. Palestinians have the government that a majority voted for, and that government has a clear disdain for human rights.

The rest of your post is just hyperbole or what you imagine that I might believe.

[Scootaloo]

23. The fact also remains that you cast ALL Palestinians as Hamas

With the clear focus on Hamas' militant activities, rather than the actual reasons Palestinians voted for 'em.

What you believe is pretty obviously on display.

[NaturalHigh]

24. You can speculate to your heart's content about what I believe.

If you think that I'm anti-Hamas, you're absolutely correct. As for the rest, you're pretty far out in left field.

[Scootaloo]

25. Remember to not sleep on your back, then

Like a turkey in the rain.

[NaturalHigh]

26. I sleep on my right side...

but thank you for your kind concern. I can only assume you believe that I'm stupid because I don't like Hamas. Fair enough.

[Scootaloo]

28. I do, but because you don't seem to differentiate between Palestinians and Hamas

See, you responded to a piece about Hamas being dicks, by blanketing all Palestinians with them:

I will never understand some people's unqualified support for Palestinians in their conflict with Israel.

And when called on it, tried the "Hamas won an election!" defense of it:

Didn't Hamas win the parliamentary election... in the Palestinian territory a few years back?

When that was pointed out to be BS - unless you think Republicans winning elections blankets "Americans" in the same way, you tried to back up without actually changing position:

I can only assume that Hamas represents the views of a lot of Palestinians. Would you assume that they don't?

And then you tried to whimper about how you're just anti-Hamas (As if anyone here is pro-Hamas?)

If you think that I'm anti-Hamas, you're absolutely correct.

and

I can only assume you believe that I'm stupid because I don't like Hamas.

What a sad victim you are! Persecuted for not liking Hamas! Oh, someone call Amnesty!

You took a foolish position, campaigned to defend it, and now that that has failed, you're acting the victim. Strange thing is, this whole... thing could have been avoided, had you decided to focus on the actual assholes you say you're against here - Hamas - instead of trying to envelop the people you're clearly actually against - Palestinians as a whole - in with them.

[King_David]

27. It aint cool to be so rude to those one disagrees with.

NaturalHigh answered your posts with respect .

[Scootaloo]

4. But David, don't you also object to the UN's view on human rights? n/t

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

6. Don't ask for reason where there is none, scoot.

[King_David]

8. Yes I think the UNHRC is a joke

But this is food for thought for those that do respect the UN's view on human rights?

[Scootaloo]

16. Well, it's just a little telling that the two of you are on the same page here

And food for thought? What, was someone here operating under the delusion that Hamas is a leading human rights organization or something?

Show of hands?

Anyone?

No?

Anyone at all?

David, your example of "food for thought" just tells me thatyour brain must be dying of starvation. This is the intellectual version of pop-rocks.

[Jefferson23]

9. Similarities of opinion within Israeli government and human rights reports...funny,

but not a laughing matter.

[King_David]

10. There's no country on earth under more scrutiny by Human rights orgs

than Israel.

I wish countries such as Uganda , Russia and Palestine State including Hamas ruled Gaza shared a fraction of this spotlight.

[Jefferson23]

11. Huh? The point is the Israeli government rejects human rights reports..you have a support

link to show otherwise..please post it.

[King_David]

13. As I said :

There's no country on earth under more scrutiny by Human rights orgs
than Israel.

I wish countries such as Uganda , Russia and Palestine State including Hamas ruled Gaza shared a fraction of this spotlight.

[Jefferson23]

14. Which makes no sense in response to my statement.

How many countries with human rights abuses receive a veto from the US to protect
their abuses?

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

18. Point, Jefferson.

[Scootaloo]

17. And yet there are many countries actually being penalized for their violations

Israel is not among them.

Uganda for instance, is getting its aid cut from pretty much all sources that provide it, over that shitty fucking law they just passed.
Israel is conductong pogroms against its own citizens - to say nothing of those against the occupied Palestinians and immigrant populations - and the worst that happens is that Kerry threatens to not tickle Netanyahu's balls during the next diplomatic blowjob.

Syria is in gross violation of numerous human rights laws, and in addition to the heavy sanctions thrown on it as a result is currently in the midst of a three-way carnage gangbang between the Russian-backed government, Shiite militant shitheads backed by Iran, and Sunni militant shitheads backed by the US and Saudi Arabia.
Israel conducts ethnic cleansing and regularly murders civilians, and the worst that happens is there's occasionally a news article about them doing that. OH THE HORROR.

Iran is not in violation of any laws or treaties whatsoever, but had some pretty brutal sanctions lodged against it purely because Israel told the US "Oh... trust us, they're Muslims, they're up to no good!"
Meanwhile Israel considers Golan to be part of Israel as well as "Judea and Samaria," and engages in mass reprisal against civilians, and gets three billion a year to continue the purging.

By the way, speaking of Uganda, are you opposed of Israel's plan to mail Africans to that country? With two grand in their pockets and no government recognition? 'Cause that's the plan, unless I missed a change in Israel's policy.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

19. Thanks, king.

You just walked yourself into a slap rest with your poorly thought out response.

You really know how to operate.