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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 06:12 PM Oct 2013

Settler Violence: Think Of It Like Burning Down A Jewish Business

Imagine a series of attacks on shops and businesses in your city. Every night, a gang of hooligans breaks windows, damages goods and sets fire to a different store.

Now imagine that this same gang only targets businesses owned by a specific group of people – say, a chain of local stores owned and operated by blacks or Jews. The attacks go on for years and only worsen with time. If the store owner happens to be there, he or she is beaten and left bleeding at the front door.

In the United States and Europe these kind of acts would be deemed “hate crimes.” In Israel, the targeting of, say, Jewish-owned businesses would be decried as an act of “terror” by politicians and the press. If the problem persists, it may even become an internationally-recognized issue. Petitions will be signed. Ambassadors will be called to explain. Communities will mobilize.

For a Palestinian farmer, the olive grove is his business.

The past several years have seen thousands of trees burned, cut down or damaged in dozens of incidents, including “price tag attacks” – a form of vandalism or property destruction, sometimes carried out in protest of a certain governmental decision that the perpetrators don’t like, and sometimes for no reason other than hate. Farmers have been shot at, beaten, and have had their cars burned. Some have suffered severe injuries, others have lost the little property they own. For almost everyone, the yearly olive harvest – taking place this time of year – has become a time of deep fear and anxiety.

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http://972mag.com/settler-violence-think-of-it-like-burning-down-a-jewish-business/81133/

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Settler Violence: Think Of It Like Burning Down A Jewish Business (Original Post) Purveyor Oct 2013 OP
If it was the other way around Link Speed Oct 2013 #1
The other way around is Palestinian terror (stones, rockets) vs. Israeli innocents... shira Oct 2013 #2
Now that you have that out of your system tell us about the IDF terrorists R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #6
When are the usual hand wringers going to be by to tsk tsk about 972? R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #3
Shouldn't be long now and I can hardly wait for the sniveling, snot blowing fest. ;) eom Purveyor Oct 2013 #4
Not really. Shaktimaan Nov 2013 #7
Like Jim KKKrow in the old south. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #5
Have you noticed out some stay away from this post like the plague? R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2013 #8
 

Link Speed

(650 posts)
1. If it was the other way around
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 06:25 PM
Oct 2013

we would be giving Israel military aid faster than they could spend it.

Oh...

wait.....

nevermind

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
2. The other way around is Palestinian terror (stones, rockets) vs. Israeli innocents...
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 06:36 PM
Oct 2013

..with the pro-Palestinian crowd here running interference for the violence, explaining it away, or justifying it.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
6. Now that you have that out of your system tell us about the IDF terrorists
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 12:05 AM
Oct 2013

shooting Palestinians in the back.
 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
3. When are the usual hand wringers going to be by to tsk tsk about 972?
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 06:43 PM
Oct 2013

They do that because if they were to actually enter into a dialog about the article they know they would be in a losing position.

Shaktimaan

(5,397 posts)
7. Not really.
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 09:42 PM
Nov 2013

The reason price tag attacks aren't considered terrorism is because they're not terrorism. This has been widely discussed in Israel in the Knesset and media as most everyone was so disgusted with this behavior that they explored changing the law to include it as terrorism.

Here's the problem. If every person who commits an act of racially inspired property damage or minor assault is legally committing terrorism then you open a doorway for unbridled opportunities for prosecution (persecution), of every protester who hits a car with a stone. Without doing anything to address the problem.

The idf isn't there to maintain order. It's not their job. They're there to keep the settlers from getting killed. Which is why they only prosecute like 8% of settlers who do this shit.

It's a policy change issue. Which will surely happen. Price tag attacks are a fairly recent phenomenon and it's sparking a lot of outrage in Israel. The answer is to aggressively police settlers. Not equating stone throwers with suicide bombers.

Edit: I looked this up and it seems that after some WAY more violent attacks this summer they went ahead and passed that law anyway. I still think it's a bad long term move, but the OP asks "why don't we consider the price tag settlers terrorists?" I guess we do.

Actually the guy who threw a firebomb against a taxi driver is clearly a terrorist. That's easy.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
5. Like Jim KKKrow in the old south.
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 07:49 PM
Oct 2013

From the article.

Why isn’t the targeting of Palestinian olive trees considered an act of terror, given that for many these trees are their livelihood? Surely the White House would issue a statement condemning a string of attacks on Jewish businesses in Tel Aviv, London or New York – so what makes Palestinians less worthy of our concern?

When it comes to Palestinian businesses, it seems that both the government and the mainstream media prefer to turn a blind eye. At worst, they purposefully hide the information from us.

It’s time to wake up to the reality in the West Bank and view these attacks on Palestinians and their livelihoods for what they are.


We wouldn't allow something like this going on in America, but American transplants...AKA Israeli settlers...do it with gusto.

What's worse is that the USA will be paying Israel going on 40bn over the next decade, and our politicians don't have the balls to say stop.


 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
8. Have you noticed out some stay away from this post like the plague?
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 11:01 AM
Nov 2013

They want it to drop like a lead balloon. Some things cannot be defended easily by the apartheid crowd.
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