Turkey FM: Israeli military strike on Iran would be a disaster

[Jefferson23]

Speaking in Washington, Ahmet Davutoglu says that while Turkey does not want any nuclear power in the region, a military attack on Iran should not be an option.

By Natasha Mozgovaya

Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu said Friday that an Israeli strike on Iran would be disastrous and should not be an option.

"We don't want any nuclear power - not in the region, and not in the world," he said while speaking at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington. "But a military strike would be a disaster. It should not be an option," he said.

Davutoglu stressed that Turkey does not want to see another conflict "at this turning point for the region."

"It's not reasonable or feasible. We will never endorse another military tension in the region," he said."

in full: http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/turkey-fm-israeli-military-strike-on-iran-would-be-a-disaster-1.412251

[tabatha]

1. Sarkosy says no; Turkey says no; Obama says no; Panetta says no.

But we still get posts here saying that an attack on Iran is imminent.

[Jefferson23]

26. See Post #25. The most important no is Obama's and the Pentagon..hopefully it will stay no for good.

[azurnoir]

2. 49% of Americans in favor of Iran strike

Recent poll by Pulse Opinion Research shows half of American public in favor of strike on Islamic Republic

Nearly half of American voters think the United States should use military force to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon, according to a poll conducted for The Hill newspaper, which covers events relating to the Congress.

According to the poll, 49% of respondents said military force should be used, while 31% said it should not and 20% were not sure.

In addition, 62% of respondents said they were somewhat or very concerned about Iran launching a terror attack against the United States, while 37% said they were not very concerned or not at all concerned.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4187957,00.html

[Ruby the Liberal]

3. Sorry for the neophyte question, but who is Pulse Opinion Research?

Never heard of them.

[azurnoir]

5. well a quick web search indicates that they are

an associate company of Rasmussen Reports

[Ruby the Liberal]

6. And another "quick internet search" shows them part of Faux and will do push polls for a fee

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/14/what-do-rasmussen-and-pul_n_716783.html



h/t

Nice try.

LOL

[azurnoir]

9. what was I trying ? please explain yourself?

BTW I also ran this thread in GD none of the reaction were quite as personally hostile as yours I thought naming Rasmussen would say pretty much what needed to be said or do you believe Rasmussen to be a liberal outfit?

[Ruby the Liberal]

11. I am not hostile, I am laughing.

Those links CAME from your thread in GD. ProSense called out the HuffPo's exposition of who these people are (really - $1,500 for any push poll you want done?) and BtA called out the actual poll results.

I was just being helpful in adding them to the conversation here as well.

[azurnoir]

16. I saw the HuffPo piece also but felt something from 10/10 about the then upcoming election

might not be best but as you told me keep trying and if you me I'll explain what I mean something you have apparently danced around while making accusation the whole time .......interesting lets keep going

[Ruby the Liberal]

17. I am not making an accusation against YOU

I am discrediting your SOURCE.

Now, do you have a different poll on what the American people think about an attack against Iran? I would be genuinely interested in knowing how that topic is polling, but not from the source provided.

[azurnoir]

19. comments #6 and 14 would say differently

the rest seems an attempt to backpedal

[azurnoir]

18. yes accusing me of being right wing as you did on this thread is helpful?

well we do have different definitions of helpful I guess because to me it seems trying to delegitimize what is an obvious proIran war propaganda from an Israeli source with a bit of personal animosity tossed in for good measure

[Ruby the Liberal]

21. Its wrong to delegitimize pro-war propoganda?

Since when? And where did I ever suggest you were right wing?

[azurnoir]

22. I'd say the question is why would Israeli media run such story

what would be purpose of making it appear the that Americans are in favor of bombing Iran?

and BTW this 'question "And where did I ever suggest you were right wing?"
I already pointed out comments 6 and 14 say much

[Ruby the Liberal]

23. Seriously?

You know people on the left watch Fox for a living, right? Media Matters for one. Staying on top of them does not make someone right wing, so kindly stop slinging the accusation at me. If I meant to suggest you were RW, I am capable of saying it. I don't and I didn't.

On the "why"? You know why they did, and you posted it without comment. No "can you believe this" or "listen to these war drums", just the findings of that push poll (results noted and linked below). Just the blurb and the link for consumption, which 2 members dug into and discredited at its source. Now that the source is known, and the actual wording of the poll has been fereted out, all of a sudden you want to turn this conversation into me?

How about we discuss the poll without the additional accusations, or better yet - as mentioned above - find another poll that is a little less biased to tell us what the American people are thinking about Iran these days. Like I said, I would be intrigued to know that.

[azurnoir]

24. Ruby you should consider a career in poltics

anyone who can use so many words too avoid a direct answer has a true talent as to my posting without comment I did not want to prejudice the outcome in GD and here I thought it unnecessary. because those that read this group should already what my stance on this would be

[tabatha]

4. Does not mean it will happen.

It did not happen under Bush.

[Ruby the Liberal]

7. And then we have the ACTUAL poll, which asked "Should the US be willing"

Because of course, "being willing" is the same exact question as "GO NOW!"



http://thehill.com/images/stories/news/2012/02_february/crosstabs_20120202_thehill.pdf

h/t BtA from your thread in GD promoting this...

[azurnoir]

10. Promoting really or was I running a propaganda piece from an Israeli newspaper?

though the accusatory hostile response from you and another one attributed to another ProIsreal poster speak volumes

lol thanx for playing

[Ruby the Liberal]

12. Looks like some others checked your sources

and they were rooted in Fox News.

Yeah, thats worth a laugh. Sorry you find laughter to be 'hostile'. I find it good for the soul.

[azurnoir]

13. I take the wording "nice try" to mean something other than the type of

laughter that is good for soul

[Ruby the Liberal]

14. You apparently view Fox differently than I do.

Yeah, I get outraged, but the vast majority of the time, their stuff is SO skewed beyond the bounds of reality that you can't help but laugh.

This poll would be one of those times, IMO.

[azurnoir]

15. ah an accusation of my being rightwing is it ?

I have actually never "viewed" Fox for more 2 minutes because they're sickening but I'll take your word that we view it quite differently

[Ruby the Liberal]

20. Where did I say that?

Some people like Fox because they present an argument that bolsters what they are already thinking (or in a direction they are already leaning). I would put Israeli media right in the middle of that camp - a lot of the time.

That doesn't mean that they (or anyone else) is by default of sine kind "right wing", only that they are using the argument presented that makes their case.

[mitchtv]

8. duh

Few want another war, besides those countries in the region will all get poisoned by the obvious nuclear escalation.First use of nukes should be sanctioned worldwide.

[Jefferson23]

25. Lieberman was recently here in DC and met with Secretary of State Clinton, I believe. The Israeli

government seems to be walking it back:

Barak: Israel 'very far off' from decision on Iran attack

Israel believes Iran itself has not yet decided whether to make a nuclear bomb, according to intelligence assesment to be presented later this week to U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff Dempsey.

By Amos Harel and Reuters

Defense Minister Ehud Barak said on Wednesday that Israel was "very far off" from a decision about an attack on Iran over its nuclear program.

Barak was speaking on Israel's Army Radio ahead of a planned visit this week by U.S. armed forces chief General Martin Dempsey that has triggered speculation Washington would press Israel to delay any action against Tehran's nuclear program.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/barak-israel-very-far-off-from-decision-on-iran-attack-1.407953