Israel Deports Eritreans Despite Rights Concerns

[Scurrilous]

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"Israel has launched a forced repatriation of Eritrean migrants that amounts to a grave violation of their human rights because of the risk of persecution in their reclusive homeland, an advocacy group said on Monday.

Israeli authorities have been trying to curb an influx of Africans that has ignited resentment in the poorer neighborhoods in which they dwell and compounded the fears of many Israelis about eventually being outnumbered in the Jewish state. But humanitarian groups say that forcibly returning African migrants home often exposes them to rights abuses including torture.

Some 60,000 Africans, including 35,000 Eritreans, have walked over a long porous desert border with Egypt into Israel since 2006, Israeli government figures show, and many live in gritty districts of Tel Aviv.

Israel regards most as illegal job-seekers but rights agencies say many should be considered for political asylum because of poor human rights records of their home governments."

http://www.voanews.com/content/israel-deports-eritreans-despite-rights-concerns/1702380.html

[oberliner]

1. "60,000 Africans have walked over a long porous desert border with Egypt into Israel"

Why do so many Africans risk their lives to travel to Israel of all places?

Don't they read 972mag?

[delrem]

2. There's *nothing* about 972mag that suggests Israel is a land without hope.

I'm unsure whether you understand the plight of 10's of 1,000's of refugees, fleeing iniquity with the clothes on their back and nothing else, who trecked across the wilderness to the promised land.

[oberliner]

4. You must not be familiar with that site.

A society sick with racism, an apartheid system worse than that of South Africa, and on and on.

The African refugees had already escaped the country they were fleeing from - but decided to go on an additional trek just to get specifically to Israel.

[delrem]

6. The fact that Israel is sick with racism (aka in this case Zionist) is in no doubt.

That fact is established by Israel's foundational laws, its basic laws which separate nations (separate nations<->apartheid nations).

Realizing that fact is automatic product of studying the relevant Zionist Israeli law and being open to the resultant acts of understanding. Israel's basic laws and subsequent supreme court judgments are plain FACT.
To understand that Zionist law *exists* and *defines* the current state of Israel isn't the same thing as to judge that Israel is without hope.

To identify the actuality of Zionism with an absence of hope for an eventual overthrow of Zionism and reign of human equality *in Israel* is to identify Israel=Zionism. It's to identify Israel, the country, with a specific racist political doctrine, and to deny that Israel is capable of recognizing all Israeli citizens as equal nationals, owed equal respect and equal rights, *including* to the land and resources.

Asserting this identity is what several are in effect doing in I/P, e.g. saying that the Bedouin victims of racist Israeli directives are "equal under Israeli law" (even though they aren't equal *nationals*), so have no ground to stand on when Israeli directives deny Bedouin communities their existence, and force the refugees from those communities into reserves, economic backwaters, places that guys like Bennett think appropriate for them.

It appears that you don't want the racism of Zionism to be an issue for discussion, but you do want the consequences of Zionism to be established as "fact on the ground".

[pelsar]

3. part of it was economics....

the route to europe was more expensive and closed off as i was told, hence israel became an option. The sinai is now a very violent place with far less security and a wall along the israeli border, so the immigration has dropped off

[oberliner]

5. They are good economic opportunities in Israel for African migrants?

Is that what you are suggesting?

[pelsar]

7. for some.....

they were looking to escape their countries to go to a better place........and those "escapes" cost money. Europe became very expensive and israel was cheaper

how much they believed their lives would improve...i dont know, but obviously enough to risk their lives for it.