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PA removed monument in shape of map of "Palestine" that encompasses Israel so that Obama would not see it
Palestinian Media Watch has documented that the official maps of the Palestinian Authority erase the entire State of Israel and replace it with "Palestine." These maps appear in the offices of PA officials, in schools and on monuments, just to name a few examples. Before his first election, US President Obama criticized such maps that anticipate a world without Israel, calling them a threat to Israel's security:
"I will never compromise when it comes to Israel's security... Not when there are terrorist groups and political leaders committed to Israel's destruction. Not when there are maps across the Middle East that don't even acknowledge Israel's existence." (emphasis added)
AIPAC Conference, June 4, 2008
After the UN vote in November 2012, the PA built a monument in a central square in Bethlehem called "The State Monument," which shows the "State of Palestine." However, the model of "Palestine" also includes all of Israel, thereby erasing it completely. The monument celebrates the UN vote on statehood as well as the first PLO/Fatah terror attack against Israel in 1965, which is seen as the beginning of the Palestinian "revolution" and Fatah's anniversary date. The words on the map-shaped monument are:
"Birth certificate of the State of Palestine - Nov. 29, 2012,
The outbreak of the glorious revolution - Jan. 1, 1965"
The monument it turned out was on President Obama's route in Bethlehem, so in order to prevent him from seeing it, the PA had the monument removed before he arrived, the official PA daily reported. This, however, outraged the local Palestinians who witnessed its removal:
"In the city, there are those who not only welcome the visit of the American President, but are willing to go even further... Residents were surprised to find that a model of the map of Palestine engraved with details about the Nakba ("Catastrophe" i.e., Israel's creation) and an olive tree were removed from the Al-Karkafa Square, to be replaced by a model of what was described as a peace dove. This enraged many people who gathered there."
http://palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=157&doc_id=8704
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Purveyor
(29,876 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Pal is short for Palestinian. So Israelwatch would be the parallel.
Are there any sites whose goal is to present issues and concerns with the Israeli government, leadership, and people?
Hmm....
King_David
(14,851 posts)That's offensive to say the least.
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)shira
(30,109 posts)You wouldn't need to be offended with PMW if the western media did its job presenting what really goes on within Palestinian society.
King_David
(14,851 posts)There's no other way to parse your post.
pennylane100
(3,425 posts)when both sides would like the other side to disappear. They must know that is not going to happen.
What is really alarming is the increased Isreal expansion in the West Bank. This cannot end well. Israel will not be able to protect the settlers living there without severe restrictions on the lives of the the Palestinians. They seem to be moving to an an apartheid system just to keep them safe and it will get worse as the numbers continue to grow.
While it is important that both sides start peace talks, I do no see any solution that would work without the removal of these settlements and I doubt that Israel would agree to that. I also think that Palestine would have to recognize Israel's right to exist and cease border attacks but there seems little incentive for them to do that.
I do not see who negotiations can even begin in these circumstances, let alone succeed.
