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Related: About this forumAmbassador Oren Tells AIPAC Likud Supports Two States
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/03/04/ambassador-oren-tells-aipac-likud-supports-two-states.htmlPrime Minister Netanyahu has taken consistent risks for peace. In 2009, when he got up at Bar Ilan University and made the two-state solution the official position of the Likud party, that was a risk. When he froze settlement growth for 10 months, that was a risk. When he got up and said in front of U.S. Congress that he understood that thered be settlements beyond Israels borders in the event of the creation of a Palestinian state, that was a risk.
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In reality, though, none of these things have been terribly risky, because Netanyahus Likud party has shown through its follow-up that its never really taken the two-state solution seriously. In fact, as Lara Friedman detailed in a Peace Now report, by every objective measure, the Netanyahu government has demonstrated that it is determined to use settlements to destroy the very possibility of the two-state solution. Thats true of the Likud of the pastconsider the fact that, during Netanyahus 10-month settlement freeze, construction never actually stopped, and was redoubled right after the freeze expiredand its even more true of Likud today. So much so, that the two-state solution cant be considered the position of the Likud party in any meaningful way, despite what Oren would have AIPAC believe.
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In reality, though, none of these things have been terribly risky, because Netanyahus Likud party has shown through its follow-up that its never really taken the two-state solution seriously. In fact, as Lara Friedman detailed in a Peace Now report, by every objective measure, the Netanyahu government has demonstrated that it is determined to use settlements to destroy the very possibility of the two-state solution. Thats true of the Likud of the pastconsider the fact that, during Netanyahus 10-month settlement freeze, construction never actually stopped, and was redoubled right after the freeze expiredand its even more true of Likud today. So much so, that the two-state solution cant be considered the position of the Likud party in any meaningful way, despite what Oren would have AIPAC believe.
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Ambassador Oren Tells AIPAC Likud Supports Two States (Original Post)
R. Daneel Olivaw
Mar 2013
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oberliner
(58,724 posts)1. Good to hear!
Let's hope this gets some momentum rolling in that direction.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)2. "Taken together, the facts that Oren conveniently glosses over
suggest that the two-state solution is neither the Likuds official position, nor is it the unofficial narrative that party members have about themselves. Oren can talk all he wants about how committed Netanyahu has always been to a two-state solution, and how committed todays Likud party still is. Someone in the AIPAC audience might even believe him. But I doubt a single Palestinian will."
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)3. there are 2 possibilities as to what the 2 states that Likud so supports are or will be
one a Palestinian State that is in reality a Palestinian only island completely surrounded by a Greater Israel, or at worst the 2 states already exist Israel and Jordan