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shira

(30,109 posts)
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 07:52 AM Mar 2013

Student Activists for Palestine — the Parody

Since the Nakba in 1948, the people of Palestine have been systematically oppressed by the illegal occupation of Palestine. Their land has been stolen, their homes demolished for no reason (I mean, it’s their land – they can build where ever they want), their babies murdered indiscriminately by the Israeli Occupation Forces (IOF), their cities ethnically cleansed. Justice in Palestine has been silenced. This is why I write. I write to inspire you to stand up for equality, just as great Che Guevara did, just as the fearless Noam Chomsky does, and just as I was inspired to do when my $60,000-per-year private university held Israel Apartheid Week....

...Now I’m not quite sure what we were protesting, but I know it was something about prisoners being put in jail for blowing up Jews (which is obviously necessary for the liberation of Palestine). Anyway, we held up our iPhone 5?s and chanted for justice: “Israel Israel you can’t hide, we charge you with genocide!” After a while we got tired of that and some of my Muslim friends started switching it up with, “Khaybar, Khaybar ya Yahud, jaysh Muhammad sauf ya’ud.” I’m still not sure what that one means, but it was catchy, so I said it too. Then, you wouldn’t believe what happened next. People supporting the Zionist entity showed up and started talking about how the Jews only attack and occupy because Hamas fires rockets and uses human shields.

I mean, I think that’s what they were saying but I actually couldn’t really hear because we just yelled louder whenever the Jews came close, but I mean, come on, Hamas is an organization of freedom fighters, and everyone knows that the Jews are lying about Hamas’s war crimes so they can steal more land.

Anyway, they’re always calling us anti-Semites, which is stupid because all Arabs are Semites (duh), so obviously I’m not an anti-Semite, I just don’t like Jews. Now don’t get me wrong, I’ve never actually been outside of the United States, much less to Palestine. My traveling consists of high school band trips to California and track meets on the other side of Ohio, but I owe it to the world to fight for the Palestinian (and Native American, and Black) cause. After all, I was born into a privileged white American family, and helping the oppressed relieves me of my guilt for being the product of white capitalist pigs. You see, I don’t need to be in Palestine to feel the pain of displacement and apartheid, and neither do you. Join me in the fight for justice today.

http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/student-activists-for-palestine-the-parody/

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Student Activists for Palestine — the Parody (Original Post) shira Mar 2013 OP
Talkbacks to parody... shira Mar 2013 #1
are you american ? Israeli Mar 2013 #2
Big difference between PeaceNow rallies vs. anti-Israel Apartheid BDS rallies. shira Mar 2013 #3
whats the difference exactly Israeli Mar 2013 #10
I think you misunderstood... shira Mar 2013 #12
so if one is anti-apartheid one is also anti-Zionist according to your statement azurnoir Mar 2013 #20
No, most anti-zionists claim apartheid, colonialism, etc.. & are for BDS. n/t shira Mar 2013 #22
Peace Now is not what is being spoofed here oberliner Mar 2013 #4
Totally. How dare rich white Americans have opinions Recursion Mar 2013 #5
How dare anyone parody the actions of rich white American college students oberliner Mar 2013 #6
I don't recall saying this parody shouldn't have been written Recursion Mar 2013 #7
That's funny seeing as how aranthus Mar 2013 #8
Funny, isn't it? And the college kids in the Apartheid rallies were just as ignorant Recursion Mar 2013 #9
You're just proving my point aranthus Mar 2013 #14
Well, it's *supposed to* make Israel feel more isolated and under siege Recursion Mar 2013 #15
It's supposed to end the Jewish state. aranthus Mar 2013 #18
Ending the white state in South Africa was more or less peaceful Recursion Mar 2013 #19
Israel simply won't allow 1-state, full RoR, majority Hamas rule.... shira Mar 2013 #28
It's not up to me; it's up to the Israelis Recursion Mar 2013 #29
Are you for 1-state or 2? n/t shira Mar 2013 #30
It doesn't matter what I'm "for"; there will be one state within a generation or so Recursion Mar 2013 #31
There won't be 1-state with full RoR without a huge war. Jews aren't the same.... shira Mar 2013 #32
Well, I hope you're wrong that the Israelis will resist violently Recursion Mar 2013 #33
Look at how Jews are treated around the mideast the past 70 years. You expect.... shira Mar 2013 #34
Well, that suggests to me Israel shouldn't have created Hamas Recursion Mar 2013 #35
I got that thanks Israeli Mar 2013 #11
Gush Shalom is in Israel oberliner Mar 2013 #13
does it ? Israeli Mar 2013 #17
clever shira the "This is just great , let the trolls begin" azurnoir Mar 2013 #16
I do like that one, but check it out. It's definitely there in the talkbacks. n/t shira Mar 2013 #21
I did all of them had to go two pages out azurnoir Mar 2013 #23
I just liked the comment. It was intended for the trolls @ the Times of Israel. n/t shira Mar 2013 #24
but you felt the urgent need to post it here why? azurnoir Mar 2013 #25
So you finally found it? It was written by some guy.... shira Mar 2013 #26
lol nope didn't say that at all but nothing changes the fact you felt the need to post it azurnoir Mar 2013 #27
 

shira

(30,109 posts)
1. Talkbacks to parody...
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 07:55 AM
Mar 2013
I have seen these anti-Israel "protests" first hand, and they are a very disturbing sight to behold. I come from a far leftist background myself, and I know what a real peace protest looks like. And let me tell you, there is a sharp and painfully obvious contrast in tone and atmosphere between genuine peace movements and.......this. Usually, the feelings you get are ones of optimism, hope, and yearning to make the world a better place. But here, all we get is screaming, bullying, intimidation, and in some cases, outright racism. The explicit kind of racism, not just the covert, self-righteous, masturbatory kind you usually see from "progressives". I hope I'm not the only one who has noticed this. The parallels between the BDS movement and the 1930's Nazi boycott of Jewish businesses is truly frightening.


This is just great , let the trolls begin.

Israeli

(4,151 posts)
2. are you american ?
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 08:48 AM
Mar 2013
Usually, the feelings you get are ones of optimism, hope, and yearning to make the world a better place. But here, all we get is screaming, bullying, intimidation, and in some cases, outright racism.


here we get outright murder :

http://peacenow.org.il/eng/content/emil-grunzweig
 

shira

(30,109 posts)
3. Big difference between PeaceNow rallies vs. anti-Israel Apartheid BDS rallies.
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 09:08 AM
Mar 2013

One is a peaceful rally for hope whereas the other features intimidating screaming bullies and racists.

I prefer the former to the latter.

How about you?

Israeli

(4,151 posts)
10. whats the difference exactly
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 01:40 PM
Mar 2013
One is a peaceful rally for hope whereas the other features intimidating screaming bullies and racists.


Have you ever attended a peace rally over here ?

First one I attended we lost Emil Grunzweig , the largest and most important of them all we lost Yitzhak Rabin .

Try marching with Gush Shalom , then you will see intimidating screaming bullies and racists .
 

shira

(30,109 posts)
12. I think you misunderstood...
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 02:13 PM
Mar 2013

I'm describing actual PeaceNow protesters & activists and then comparing them to the anti-Apartheid, anti-colonialist, 1-state, BDS activists.

I'm not describing rightwing reactions to those groups.

PeaceNow rallies are very dovish, full of hope and truly peaceful. As opposed to the pro-BDS rallies led by and consisting of angry, screaming, intolerant bullies and racists chanting "Palestine will be free from the River to the Sea".

If you ask me, it's the difference between a liberal/leftist rally and an extreme far right mob. And the reason is simple. PeaceNow is actually run by genuinely peaceful, liberal zionists. The BDS, anti-Apartheid anti-zionist 1-staters act like extreme right-wingers with a mob mentality, perhaps because there are so many extreme rightwingers and Hamas supporters within the movement.


azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
20. so if one is anti-apartheid one is also anti-Zionist according to your statement
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 03:56 PM
Mar 2013

fascinating really I've never equated the two before but thanks for that

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
4. Peace Now is not what is being spoofed here
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 10:56 AM
Mar 2013

It is spoofing rich white American college students who have no Israeli/Palestinian connection staging various "actions" at universities across the US because they have decided to embrace this particular cause for one reason or another.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
5. Totally. How dare rich white Americans have opinions
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 12:43 PM
Mar 2013


And the similar actions against South Africa did nothing, I tell you...
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
6. How dare anyone parody the actions of rich white American college students
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 12:46 PM
Mar 2013

Just speak of their actions with reverence and in hushed respectful tones.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
7. I don't recall saying this parody shouldn't have been written
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 12:49 PM
Mar 2013

But, it is the same thing South Africa's defenders said 30 years ago.

aranthus

(3,385 posts)
8. That's funny seeing as how
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 01:11 PM
Mar 2013

her parody is about the expensively educated dullards who know nothing about South Africa, haven't been to the Middle East, and yet enthusiastically buy into the lie that Israel/Palestine is the same thing as South Africa.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
9. Funny, isn't it? And the college kids in the Apartheid rallies were just as ignorant
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 01:19 PM
Mar 2013

For that matter so were a lot of anti-segregation protestors in the US. Still doesn't change their effectiveness, and it always makes the targets of the protest bitter, like this guy is.

aranthus

(3,385 posts)
14. You're just proving my point
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 03:00 PM
Mar 2013

by putting words in my mouth and attacking motives. As for their effectiveness, that isn't what is being parodied. It's their signing on to the war against the Jewish state that is at issue.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
15. Well, it's *supposed to* make Israel feel more isolated and under siege
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 03:01 PM
Mar 2013

so it's not at all surprising that it does.

aranthus

(3,385 posts)
18. It's supposed to end the Jewish state.
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 03:44 PM
Mar 2013

That certainly will make Israel feel more isolated and threatened, but it won't bring a peaceful solution to the problem.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
19. Ending the white state in South Africa was more or less peaceful
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 03:53 PM
Mar 2013

Though, like in Israel, it took terrorism to get the leverage to start the process (Mandela started out blowing up white farms, after all).

I see no reason that this will be different.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
28. Israel simply won't allow 1-state, full RoR, majority Hamas rule....
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 04:28 PM
Mar 2013

So how many are you willing to see die to make that 1-state solution happen?

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
29. It's not up to me; it's up to the Israelis
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 04:40 PM
Mar 2013

I'd prefer nobody die. 1-state full ROR majority rule is coming; it's up to the Israelis how rough the transition is for them. Offering something better than Hamas does would be a good start.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
31. It doesn't matter what I'm "for"; there will be one state within a generation or so
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 04:49 PM
Mar 2013

Given that, I'm "for" the transition being as peaceful as possible, and there being protections for the way of life and rights of the eventual Jewish minority. Arguing about two states is like mapping the iceberg the Titanic already hit; there's going to be one state, and my interest is that the transition be as peaceful as possible.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
32. There won't be 1-state with full RoR without a huge war. Jews aren't the same....
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 04:59 PM
Mar 2013

...as they were back before the WW2 era, defenseless and relying on their host countries to be nice to them. Those days are over.

There's simply no way with a 1-state Palestinian majority there will be protections for a Jewish minority. Look around the mideast and you'll find that 99% of all Jews from surrounding Arab countries were ethnically cleansed. At best, they live under Jim Crow conditions.

It's not happening.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
33. Well, I hope you're wrong that the Israelis will resist violently
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 05:04 PM
Mar 2013

I guess that's all there is to say about that. Particularly since that probably would bring about the kind of ethnic cleansing you're worried about, unlike engaging constructively.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
34. Look at how Jews are treated around the mideast the past 70 years. You expect....
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 05:10 PM
Mar 2013

....Jews to slit their own throats by giving Hamas, Islamic Jihad and friends the keys to the car?

Are you truly not aware of the Hamas program for Jews? It can be summed up in one word: Genocide.

How can you expect the Jews to just let that happen?

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
35. Well, that suggests to me Israel shouldn't have created Hamas
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 05:21 PM
Mar 2013

And, now that they have, they need to offer Palestinians something they will prefer to Hamas. I agree with you that it would be in the Israelis' best interest, I just don't see it happening, unfortunately.

Israeli

(4,151 posts)
11. I got that thanks
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 01:59 PM
Mar 2013

by the looks of Emily Schrader she fits right into the stereotype
maybe she should join a Gush Shalom march then spoof that for the american market , I'm sure it will get lots of laughs .

Israeli

(4,151 posts)
17. does it ?
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 03:42 PM
Mar 2013
That sort of defeats the idea behind the satire.


Tell me oberliner , what exactly are these students protesting ?

Now tell me what exactly are Peace Now and Gush Shalom protesting for ?

Hint :

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azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
16. clever shira the "This is just great , let the trolls begin"
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 03:27 PM
Mar 2013

is some poo YOU made-up to fling at DUers and then attempted to make it appear as if it were a talkback

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
23. I did all of them had to go two pages out
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 04:15 PM
Mar 2013

but at least you'll admit that much you consider DUers who disagree with you to be trolls that's a start anyway care to add anything?

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
26. So you finally found it? It was written by some guy....
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 04:22 PM
Mar 2013

...named Natan Epstein in Jerusalem 21 hours ago (EST is 3:21pm now).

Turns out there are plenty of hateful trolls there choking on it, like Ben White!

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
27. lol nope didn't say that at all but nothing changes the fact you felt the need to post it
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 04:25 PM
Mar 2013

suggesting it expressed something for you but what exactly.....as if lol

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