Israel/Palestine
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http://972mag.com/settler-security-official-palestinians-are-not-supposed-to-stand-next-to-jews/65980/Palestinians are not supposed to stand next to Jews at the same hitchhiking stop, certainly not in Beit El.
delrem
(9,688 posts)Why does Israel, in creating its "settlements", choose this way of separating Israeli people from the indigenous Palestinian population even while settling their land - and by the way, why do Israelis now deny that Palestinians even exist? There's no room for doubt that Israel is in control, so obviously everything that happens in these regards is Israel's choice. Israel isn't the weak or helpless party, nt by a long shot. So why does Israel choose such a clearly and absolutely defined apartheid system, and yet deny that it has imposed an apartheid system?
Perhaps more importantly, why isn't Israel's denial universally derided as contrary to rational sense?
That's the mindfuck of it all. At least with South Africa the apartheid gov't openly explained the apartheid system. Give them a point for honesty. And perhaps that honesty counts for a lot in easing the difficult post-apartheid transition. Perhaps that honesty was required to allow Mandela to rise above the extraordinarily difficult circumstances.
holdencaufield
(2,927 posts)Jews have been living in the West Bank continuously for the past 3,000 years. Far longer than the Palestinian Arabs. Except for a period between 1948 and 1967 -- when all Jews were expelled by Jordan -- they have been part of that land.
delrem
(9,688 posts)On the other hand, I wouldn't suppose that a person certified as "Jewish" whose family hadn't seen hide nor hair of the mid-east for several hundred years has more right to live in Palestine than an indigenous Palestinian family that sought refuge from the horror of the recent wars.
Further: I have no problem with the concept that Israel should be a refuge for the Jewish people so horrifically treated in the 1940's, esp, during the time of the holocaust. And I know that such a horror has a generational effect, that the effect is not by a long way "over".
I just don't agree with apartheid. Get it?
TomClash
(11,344 posts)They cannot kill or deport them en masse, at least not yet. The settlements are to secure more arable land and ultimately to control all of Palestine that matters.
Jews were 8% of Palestine in 1882 and less before that. Arabs were the majority in Palestine for centuries and will be soon again.
Solindsey
(115 posts)I'm glad this is being exposed even more now.