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King_David

(14,851 posts)
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 12:29 AM Feb 2013

For Iran, the Holocaust is just another tragedy - if it ever happened

Iran apologists contend that the Iranian regime behaves rationally and is therefore a fitting partner for nuclear negotiations. But there is nothing rational in Tehran's constant embrace of virulent anti-Semitism and outright Holocaust denial.

By James Kirchick | Feb.07, 2013 | 2:55 PM | 9

On Monday, I invited Iranian Foreign Minister Ali Akbar Salehi to visit Berlin's Holocaust Memorial.

Salehi was addressing a packed audience at the German Council on Foreign Relations, delivering a peculiarly titled speech, "Iran's Role in Regional Peace and Balance of Power." Peculiar, because it is Iran which is supplying weapons, soldiers, and tactical support to Syrian President Bashar Assad (whose regime has murdered upwards of 60,000 people over the past two years) and because it is Iran which arms the terrorist organizations Hezbollah and Hamas that destabilize Lebanon and the Palestinian territories, respectively.

"Your president is a Holocaust denier," I said, "and your government has hosted a Holocaust denial conference." In light of these facts, I asked, would Salehi be willing to take a few minutes out of his busy schedule to see the memorial to the Murdered Jews of Europe in downtown Berlin?

"Any holocaust is a human tragedy," the MIT-educated Salehi answered.

"Are there more than one?" moderator Sylke Tempel, editor of the German magazine Internationale Politik, asked incredulously.


http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/for-iran-the-holocaust-is-just-another-tragedy-if-it-ever-happened.premium-1.502134

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For Iran, the Holocaust is just another tragedy - if it ever happened (Original Post) King_David Feb 2013 OP
Seems like this belongs in the Mid East Group. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #1
Feel free to x-post , I do not mind at all. nt King_David Feb 2013 #2
I'll leave that up to you to correct the mistake. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #3
There was no mistake, King_David Feb 2013 #4
Does the article make any mention in depth of I/P or is it just your R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #5
Yet you are compelled to discuss it in this forum King_David Feb 2013 #6
I was compelled to ask why there seems to be an R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #8
sigh King_David Feb 2013 #9
See post 10. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #12
Recent Iranian statements: Threats, delegitimization of Israel and antisemitism King_David Feb 2013 #7
Just posting more hate speech by Almadinajad against Israel does not validate R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #10
Thanks for the kicks nt King_David Feb 2013 #11
You're welcome. Thanks for being disingenuous. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #13

King_David

(14,851 posts)
4. There was no mistake,
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 02:01 AM
Feb 2013

Iran is very much involved in the IP struggle and the destabilization of the region.

They arm and support Hezbollah and Hamas.

Their views on Israel,The Jews,The Zionist entity,The Jewish State,The Holocaust are essential to the understanding of the IP struggle.

Holocaust Denial is not only because of rampant antisemitism in Iran.




You never knew this ?

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
5. Does the article make any mention in depth of I/P or is it just your
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 02:06 AM
Feb 2013

interpretation of the article, and characters therein, that makes it so?

On could post an article about Amadinajad's use of mouthwash, or lack thereof, in I/P with the same statement that you made.

It doesn't make it any more relevant.
 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
8. I was compelled to ask why there seems to be an
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 02:13 AM
Feb 2013

inability, on your part, to post articles in relevant forums.

I'm not discussing the article. I'm discussing why you placed it in the wrong forum.
 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
12. See post 10.
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 02:19 AM
Feb 2013

The OP most likely belongs in the Mid East group, but you know that.

I'm not sure what all the pushback is about.

Perhaps you are having a difficulty finding it?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1253


King_David

(14,851 posts)
7. Recent Iranian statements: Threats, delegitimization of Israel and antisemitism
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 02:12 AM
Feb 2013

Ahmadinejad: "In the new Middle East there will be no trace of the American presence and the Zionists. The very existence of the Zionist regime is an insult to the humankind and an affront to all world nations."


Woman walks past writing on a wall in Persian that reads, "Down with Israel", in northern Tehran - March 2012 (Photo: Reuters)











Destroying Israel:

"President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told them there was no place for the Jewish state in a future Middle East…. 'You want a new Middle East? We do too, but in the new Middle East ... there will be no trace of the American presence and the Zionists,'….
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad - Quds Day Address, 17 August 2012;
Reuters, Published: 17 August 2012

"The Israeli regime is a tool in the hands of Zionists to control the Middle-East and the entire world, Ahmadinejad stated. The Iranian president further stated that the International Quds Day is the day of unity among all human beings to remove the Zionist black stain from the human society."
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad - Quds Day Address, 17 August 2012;
Fars News Agency, Iran; Published: 17 August 2012

"President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad ... said the very existence of the Zionist regime is an insult to the humankind and an affront to all world nations….The Iranian President further described the World Quds Day as an occasion for the unity of all human communities to wipe out this scarlet letter, meaning the Zionist regime, from the forehead of humanity."
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad - Quds Day Address, 17 August 2012;
IRNA - Islamic Republic News Agency; Published: 17 August 2012


http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/The+Iranian+Threat/Holocaust+denial/Iranian_statements_Aug_2012

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
10. Just posting more hate speech by Almadinajad against Israel does not validate
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 02:15 AM
Feb 2013

the OP being in the wrong forum or group.

Not sure why that is hard for you to understand.
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