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Related: About this forumEx-pats launch Israeli Opposition Network, call for regime change in Israel
http://972mag.com/israeli-opposition-network-launches-in-the-united-states/64714/New York For Yael Berda, the unexpectedly strong showing of Yair Lapid and his Yesh Atid (There is a Future) party in Israels recent national elections is no reason for centrists or liberals to celebrate. Lapids party labels itself centrist, she says, but its domestic and security policies are so similar to the right wing parties that it will only serve to bolster their agenda. The neophyte politician is from Israels wealthy Ashkenazi elite, which identifies with Europe and the United States. In that cultural sense, she said, You can call Lapid a liberal. But not in terms of his views on security and wealth distribution.
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Its a mistake to look at the results of todays election in Israel as a division between two blocks, says Nitzan Lebovic, a professor of history and a member of the Israeli Opposition Network. The large majority of the parties in both blocks represent something closer to a Conservative agenda in American and European terms.
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Ex-pats launch Israeli Opposition Network, call for regime change in Israel (Original Post)
R. Daneel Olivaw
Jan 2013
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oberliner
(58,724 posts)1. Maybe you can just have one post with links to all of 972mags "articles"
This one even has a supportive comment from Greta Berlin!
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)2. Is there something in the article that upsets you?
If you want to debate it or talk about it then that is great, but if you are going to be upset about commenters to an article then may I suggest a cup of tea and an aspirin for you?
Mosby
(16,320 posts)3. what do you make of this?
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We believe the entire regime in Israel has to change, she said bluntly. Right now Jewish Americans support Israel no matter what it does. And that has got to stop. The government of Israel does not reflect the public; nor does it care about the public. It is making no efforts toward peace. Israel is a democracy only for some of the Jews some of the time. We are afraid. We are at a point where we need help.
That does not sound very progressive to me, especially coming from some rich kid who's parents are financing a 100K plus princton education. Honestly it sounds a bit facist, but rich people tend towards that imo. Must be a nice life for her.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)4. What do I make of this?
Firstly, it is an opinion of somebody that apparently loves Israel and wants to see it grow in the right direction. Some Expats criticize the country that they leave in order for it to grow.
It is curious that one would belittle her and call her a rich kid and a fascist as well as insulting her parents.
Is there something that you take issue with regards to criticism of Israel, or is any criticism worthy of your derision?
The article is about wanting to make Israel a better place.
We think the Jewish community has a very skewed view of Israeli politics and society and democracy. They didnt understand the social justice protests. They dont believe there are 2 million Israelis living in poverty.
So what do I make of the whole article? I posted it because I believed that it needed to be seen and not buried, but I can see that the usual deniers will just cluck their tongues, roll their eyes, and chalk this up to an article by another Israel hater...even though the writer is from Israel.
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, and you should take it as that.
Mosby
(16,320 posts)5. It bothers me that she is making a living from the "anti-occupation" industry
How much of the profits from her book is she donating to Palestinian charities?
Probably nothing.
She was born in NYC as a rich kid, lived in Israel for a while and is now pursuing a PHD in Sociology at Princeton U.
Look at her papers:
The Colonial Foundations of the State of Exception: Juxtaposing the Israeli Occupation of the Palestinian Territories with Colonial Bureaucratic History.
The Bureaucracy of the Occupation: The Permit Regime in the West Bank 2000
THE BUREAUCRACY OF THE OCCUPATION: AN INTRODUCTION TO THE PERMIT REGIME
The Erotics of the Occupation
The Political-Theological and Racial Foundations of Colonial State Bureaucracy: Juxtaposing the Israeli Occupation of Palestinian Territories with Colonial
Any serious researcher would not describe early Zionist activities as "colonialism".
She loves something all right but it ain't Israel.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)6. I can honestly say that I do not share the same opinion, but you are
definitely entitled to yours.