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shira

(30,109 posts)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 07:27 AM Nov 2012

Photos and footage from last night’s anti-Israel and pro-Israel demonstrations in London.

Last night one thousand anti-Israel protesters swarmed towards the Israeli Embassy in London after Israel had begun its legal (in international law) defensive operations against the hundreds of Hamas rockets being fired at Israel from Gaza. Not a word was spoken by them against Hamas despite the horrors Hamas inflicts on both Israelis and Gazans. A nasty atmosphere was heightened by dozens of young women and men with their faces half-covered. Were they Occupy protesters looking for a new cause now that movement is defunct? (see photo below)

If only the Stop The War Coalition and the Palestine Solidarity Campaign would mobilise such numbers to protest the brutalities taking place in Syria, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Bahrain, Lebanon and Turkey, but there seems to be a general apathy towards murder and oppression in those places. It’s only the Jewish state rightly defending itself (with the full support of America and Britain) that really brings the protesters out onto the streets of London. Chants included “No Justice No Peace, Israel Out the Middle East”, “Zionism, You Will Pay” and “From the River to the Sea, Palestine Will be Free”, as you can hear:

The words aren’t about settlements, Jerusalem or, even, the Palestinians, but simply call for the total destruction of the Jewish state.

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http://richardmillett.wordpress.com/2012/11/16/photos-and-footage-from-last-nights-anti-and-pro-israel-demos-in-london/

Pro-Hamas demonstrators from Toronto:

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Photos and footage from last night’s anti-Israel and pro-Israel demonstrations in London. (Original Post) shira Nov 2012 OP
"Peace Activists" exposed GermanSmoker Nov 2012 #1
Yeah, because some video of protestors in London is representative of all Democracyinkind Nov 2012 #2
Yeah it's like videos of random Israelis saying nasty things oberliner Nov 2012 #4
Exactly. NT Democracyinkind Nov 2012 #5
Same talking points in those videos as we see here on the forums. n/t shira Nov 2012 #7
So what? The worst of pro-israeli talking points is being spewed here Democracyinkind Nov 2012 #8
There are no ugly pro-Israel talking points here... shira Nov 2012 #9
Your're the norm as much as those videos are. Democracyinkind Nov 2012 #11
Really? How? shira Nov 2012 #17
I like you...... jeggus Nov 2012 #28
Can't win allies with supporters of Hamas, Jew haters, or the intentionally blind shira Nov 2012 #30
Haha. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2012 #27
So why do you think Israel assassinated Jabbari and started this war?...... kayecy Nov 2012 #3
All about the framing of the questions oberliner Nov 2012 #6
And some would say the economic blockade was the cause of the rockets.... kayecy Nov 2012 #13
And some would say there is a border between Gaza and Egypt oberliner Nov 2012 #15
Tell that to the out-of-work Gaza fishermen..... kayecy Nov 2012 #16
Yes but they would be wrong. Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #23
The first video is goobledeegook....could't understand a word or read one sign snappyturtle Nov 2012 #10
At what point in the video is the "total destruction" part? bunnies Nov 2012 #12
The soundbites are priceless in the 2nd clip ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #14
Protesters chant ‘Hamas, Jews to gas’ in Antwerp shira Nov 2012 #18
Do you really believe that this map is propaganda? R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #19
Vanderbilt University: "Imposter Jews to Go Back to Asia" shira Nov 2012 #20
“Gaza is the Real Holocaust,” “Long live the Intifada!” shira Nov 2012 #21
At NY Israeli Consulate "Al Jabari was a hero to the Palestinian people" shira Nov 2012 #22
Seumas Milne (Associate Editor @ Guardian) says Hamas has right to resist shira Nov 2012 #24
He thinks Israel itself is an injustice. aranthus Nov 2012 #25
So who's still claiming media is biased in favor of Israel? n/t shira Nov 2012 #26
Umm. Maybe the media biased against Israel? n/t aranthus Nov 2012 #29
 

GermanSmoker

(91 posts)
1. "Peace Activists" exposed
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 07:32 AM
Nov 2012

Always lovely when these guys show their true colours. I have seen the Sun News Video yesterday and it proves my opinion about the "Israel Critics".

Democracyinkind

(4,015 posts)
2. Yeah, because some video of protestors in London is representative of all
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 07:36 AM
Nov 2012


israel critics.... Seriously... People..

If we would judge israel by the same standards - looking only at the worst (insert protestor, politician, citizen), I don't think they'd look much better.

The agendas on DU concerning I/P sicken me. Sick fucks, those who want to justify violence. On both sides. Plenty of them right here, calling themselves "Democrats"....

Democracyinkind

(4,015 posts)
8. So what? The worst of pro-israeli talking points is being spewed here
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 07:47 AM
Nov 2012

ad nauseum too. But you already knew that, of course.
 

shira

(30,109 posts)
9. There are no ugly pro-Israel talking points here...
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 08:09 AM
Nov 2012

But there are pro-Hamas.

You say those videos are the exception when they're actually the norm.

Democracyinkind

(4,015 posts)
11. Your're the norm as much as those videos are.
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 08:42 AM
Nov 2012

Thankfully, that is.

The norm as I perceive it is neither rabidly pro-israel nor pro-palestinian. The norm, as I would have have it, is anti-violent. Can't say that you've earned the latter label, from what I've read from you.

And there certainly are rabid anti-palestinian posts on DU, just as there is the opposite. I am sickened by both. As I am sickened by anyone pushing a one-sided viewpoint (such as you constantly do here) in this many-sided clusterfuck, especially on a site such as DU.
 

shira

(30,109 posts)
17. Really? How?
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 04:51 PM
Nov 2012

And what do you think of people who either support or are apologists for Hamas behavior?

 

jeggus

(26 posts)
28. I like you......
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:51 PM
Nov 2012

because you are one funny mother fucker! Dude, do you think you are winning any allies with your canned propaganda? Do you write this shit or are there writers working with you at Pravda?

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
30. Can't win allies with supporters of Hamas, Jew haters, or the intentionally blind
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 10:08 PM
Nov 2012

Can you give me one example of this shit you call canned propaganda?

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,868 posts)
27. Haha.
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:39 PM
Nov 2012

You're so intellectually dishonest that its really laughable.

Why are you so racist against Arabs anyway?

kayecy

(1,417 posts)
3. So why do you think Israel assassinated Jabbari and started this war?......
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 07:38 AM
Nov 2012

So why do you think Israel assassinated Jabbari?......To make it clear to Hamas that anyone wanting a truce would be murdered?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
6. All about the framing of the questions
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 07:42 AM
Nov 2012

Some might say that the constant rocket attacks from Gaza started the war...

Mr. Jabari was not a man of peace; he didn’t believe in peace with Israel and refused to have any direct contact with Israeli leaders and even nonofficials like me.

That would be from the person with whom he was supposedly involved in negotiating a truce.

But don't let facts stand in the way of your narrative.

kayecy

(1,417 posts)
13. And some would say the economic blockade was the cause of the rockets....
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:43 AM
Nov 2012

And some would say the economic blockade was the cause of the rockets....

As you say, don't let the facts affect your beliefs.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
15. And some would say there is a border between Gaza and Egypt
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 12:03 PM
Nov 2012

Actually, that's just a fact.

But on and on we can go....

kayecy

(1,417 posts)
16. Tell that to the out-of-work Gaza fishermen.....
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 12:46 PM
Nov 2012

This is a silly interchange.......We both know the facts so have your final say and we will leave it at that.

Shaktimaan

(5,397 posts)
23. Yes but they would be wrong.
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 01:48 AM
Nov 2012

The rockets began immediately following Israel's withdrawal from Gaza in 2005. The same day in fact.

Economic sanctions weren't imposed until Hamas won their election in 2006. The blockade wasn't imposed until the coup that ousted the PA from Gaza occurred in 2007.

As you say, don't let the facts affect your beliefs.


Hey, you're the one who thinks an event that occurred in 2007 caused an event that began in 2005.

snappyturtle

(14,656 posts)
10. The first video is goobledeegook....could't understand a word or read one sign
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 08:37 AM
Nov 2012

in it's entirety. In the second video I did not hear one person call for the, how did you put it?..."the total destruction of the Jewish state." I think if the young reporter had simply asked the individual protestors "Who do you support and why"? the video might have some credence.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
12. At what point in the video is the "total destruction" part?
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 09:07 AM
Nov 2012

Ive watched it 3 times now and cant seem to find it.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
14. The soundbites are priceless in the 2nd clip
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:58 AM
Nov 2012

I assume the editors chose the worst, but they are so out to lunch it is funny.

Saw some of the same style of idiots on campus yesterday. Used a graphic about the rockets that was posted here as to warhead capacities. They went into complete shock that their bottle rocket meme was a total lie. One went so far as to say it was only kinetic energy and not explosives. Also refused to believe that Iran was furnishing them despite the statements on Egyptian TV

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
20. Vanderbilt University: "Imposter Jews to Go Back to Asia"
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:37 PM
Nov 2012

...

One protester claimed ALL of Israel is on occupied land, including Tel Aviv, Jaffa, and Haifa. According to him, “Every square foot of Palestine is owned by the Palestinians. The Israelites have no reason to stay there, ever.” He went on to stay, “Your citizens are not supposed to be there. This land is not yours! Move off! Move back to Europe where you came from.” Another sign he held proclaimed “the imposter Jews should go back to Asia.”

A lady claimed the Israeli response to the Hamas rocket attacks is “almost the same” as the Holocaust which claimed the lives of over 6 million people. Several young children apparently with her gathered around a sign claiming that Israel’s military actions – a defense of herself against Gaza terrorists – is tantamount to another “holocaust.”

Another lady at the protest claimed that the Hamas rocket attacks are “not even that scary” and that “Israel is the great aggressor.” She also inaccurately declared that “no one has been allowed in or out [of Gaza] since 2007” and bizarrely claimed that Hamas has only fired “a couple of rockets back” at Israel. Furthermore, she stated Israel’s response in Gaza is “ethnic cleansing and genocide.”

...

While protesters boldly proclaimed Israel was a terrorist state since its founding, protesters claimed Hamas was NOT a terrorist organization! The United States Department of State disagrees, listing Hamas as a Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO). One protester verbally berated the journalist for daring to inquire about the messaging on the signs.

The intolerance, bigotry, and ignorance displayed by the anti-Israel protesters at the event proves discouraging for all those hoping for reason and peace to prevail in the Middle East.

http://www.policymic.com/articles/19406/war-in-israel-anti-israel-protesters-tell-imposter-jews-to-go-back-to-asia

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
21. “Gaza is the Real Holocaust,” “Long live the Intifada!”
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:40 PM
Nov 2012

Many of the demon­stra­tions were marked by extreme and anti-Semitic mes­sages. Signs that com­pared Israel to Nazi Ger­many and expressed sup­port for “armed resis­tance” in Gaza were wide­spread. Below is a sam­pling of the demonstrations:

New York: Approx­i­mately 1,000 indi­vid­u­als attended a rally to “Protest Israeli crimes in Gaza” out­side the Israeli Con­sulate. Signs held at the demon­stra­tion read, “Pales­tini­ans are free­dom fight­ers;” “Stop Israeli geno­cide in Gaza;” “Resistance is jus­ti­fied when peo­ple are occu­pied;” “Long live the Intifada;” “With our soul and our blood we will redeem you, Pales­tine;” and “Gaza is Today’s War­saw Ghetto.”

One after the other, dif­fer­ent speak­ers took turns con­demn­ing Israel using Holo­caust analo­gies, prais­ing “armed resis­tance,” and call­ing for “Pales­tine to be free, from the [Jor­dan] River to the [Mediter­ranean] Sea.” One speaker said, “Speak­ing of resis­tance, do you guys think resis­tance equals ter­ror­ism?” The crowd shouted, “No!!!” Another speaker claimed that “Gaza is the War­saw Ghetto of today. Sixty years ago when the Jew­ish peo­ple in the War­saw Ghetto fought back against the Nazi war machine, today it is the peo­ple of Gaza and Pales­tine who are fight­ing for free­dom against a war machine that is no bet­ter than that of the Nazis.”

http://blog.adl.org/international/demonstrators-at-anti-israel-rallies-gaza-is-the-real-holocaust-long-live-the-intifada

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
22. At NY Israeli Consulate "Al Jabari was a hero to the Palestinian people"
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:47 PM
Nov 2012

Referring to the Hamas military leader who was assassinated by Israel last week, Sarah Ibrahimi, a member of American Muslims for Palestine, stated, “Ahmed al-Jabari was a hero to the Palestinian people; a righteous fighter for justice and freedom, and his blood will be revenged.” Ibrahimi then led the group’s followers in the chant, “There is only one solution; Revolution, Revolution” and “From the River to the Sea, Palestine Will be Free.”

http://jewishvoiceny.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2434:anti-and-pro-israel-demonstrators-square-off-at-nys-israeli-consulate&catid=106:international&Itemid=289

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
24. Seumas Milne (Associate Editor @ Guardian) says Hamas has right to resist
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 08:27 PM
Nov 2012
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Beginning at approximately 1:20 into the video.

Doesn't look like a lot of news agencies and Human Rights Orgs are even trying to pretend anymore. They're supporters of Hamas terror.

70 years ago, they'd have supported either Stalin or Hitler.

Fuck 'em.

aranthus

(3,385 posts)
25. He thinks Israel itself is an injustice.
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:21 PM
Nov 2012

Starting at about 2:40. There will be no peace while this terrible injustice endures.

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