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davidhaslanded

(39 posts)
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 12:59 PM Oct 2012

Terror-aid bank suit (Chinese bank sued by Israelis)

-excerpt-

The families of five Israeli students murdered by a Palestinian gunman in 2008 plan to sue the Bank of China today for allegedly moving millions of dollars for a terror group that hailed the attack, The Post has learned.

The pending Manhattan Supreme Court suit will seek more than $750 million in damages on grounds that the Chinese bank “provided extensive banking services” to Hamas and “materially supported” the deadly rampage.

[link:http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/terror_aid_bank_suit_1K8gMnB4JOeSNjynaAqE5K|

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Terror-aid bank suit (Chinese bank sued by Israelis) (Original Post) davidhaslanded Oct 2012 OP
Interesting was one of the victims an American citizen? Otherwise why is it being tried in the US azurnoir Oct 2012 #1
It's the New York Post oberliner Oct 2012 #2
More information davidhaslanded Oct 2012 #3
Its not the Government of Israel suing nt King_David Oct 2012 #12
That's the idea in my post if the US acts as 'executioner' azurnoir Oct 2012 #13
Chinese response davidhaslanded Oct 2012 #4
At the link it says "Terror-aid bank sult". 'l', not 'i'. bemildred Oct 2012 #5
out to be interesting in any event n/t azurnoir Oct 2012 #6
Koud be. nt bemildred Oct 2012 #7
lol no coffee no postie azurnoir Oct 2012 #11
Yeah, I think that got us both today. bemildred Oct 2012 #14
May need to get your eyes checked oberliner Oct 2012 #8
It did. I checked three times. nt bemildred Oct 2012 #9
Take it back. I have to blow the fonts up, but they are 'i''s. bemildred Oct 2012 #10
OMG YOU SAID THE S-WORD! Violet_Crumble Oct 2012 #18
F**k meta threads. Is that better? bemildred Oct 2012 #20
It's nice to see you too... Violet_Crumble Oct 2012 #23
Mocking something that doesn't exist oberliner Oct 2012 #21
And very very popular in I/P. nt bemildred Oct 2012 #22
Terror-aid? Is that anything like Flav-R-Aid? Sounds like serious deadly stuff, either way. *nt Alamuti Lotus Oct 2012 #15
What a funny witty post King_David Oct 2012 #16
Thank you!! Alamuti Lotus Oct 2012 #17
I'd like to think it resembled Live Aid from the 80's... Violet_Crumble Oct 2012 #19

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
1. Interesting was one of the victims an American citizen? Otherwise why is it being tried in the US
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 06:21 PM
Oct 2012

rather than Israel?

It did occur to me that a win of that magnitude could indeed put a damper on Israeli-China trade relations

China Israel Bilateral Trade
General

China and Israel began their trade relations long before the actual establishment of the diplomatic relations in 1992. Though the initial figures were quite modest, due to the constant and rapid growth in trade throughout the years, the bilateral trade between the two countries has already reached 6.7 billion US$ in 2010 and is expected to top 8 billion US$ in 2011.

In light of the economic and trade developments, China was defined by the Israeli Ministry of Industry, Trade, and labor as an "Israeli Export Target Country". The main goal of this program is to encourage Israeli exports, especially in the fields of Telecommunication and High-Tech, Agro-technology, Security, Environment and Infrastructures to the Chinese market.

Each year, business delegations in various fields are conducted to different provinces to expose the local industries to Israeli companies in their field. Delegations were already successfully conducted in provinces such as Guangdong, Sichuan, Yunnan, Hainan, Heilongjiang etc.

The Israeli Economic activity in China is also expanding – Trade Representative offices were established in southern China in the cities of Guangzhou and Shenzhen, and in southwest China in the city of Chengdu. A office in northeast China, in the city of Dalian will soon be opened as well.


http://www.israeltrade.org.cn/english/doing_business_with_china/bilateral_trade/000052/

according to a table in the link China imports 34.57% of its high tech /electronic stuff from Israel and this could conceivably cause a chill in that, unless of course it is a private Chinese bank being sued

davidhaslanded

(39 posts)
3. More information
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:11 AM
Oct 2012

More info in this article:
http://www.foxbusiness.com/news/2012/10/23/families-slain-students-file-suit-against-bank-china/

According to the Israel Law Center's website:
http://www.israellawcenter.org/page.asp?id=341&show=photo&pn=1286&ref=report


"Usually, US citizens have the right to file lawsuits against those who sponsor and execute terror. In this suit, we were able to make use of laws allowing non-Americans to also sue in US courts in the case of terrorism," explained Darshan-Leitner.

The plaintiffs allege that starting in 2003, the national Chinese bank executed dozens of wire transfers for Hamas totaling several million dollars. These transfers were initiated by the Hamas leadership in Iran and Syria, processed through BOC branches in the United States and sent on to a BOC account in China operated by a senior militant. From there, the funds were transferred to Hamas and other terror groups in the Gaza Strip and West Bank.

In April 2005, Israeli counterterrorism officers met with officials from the Chinese Ministry of Public Security and China’s Central Bank. The Israelis demanded that the Chinese officials take action to prevent the BOC from making any further such wire transfers. "Despite these warnings the state-owned bank, with Beijing's approval, continued to wire funds for terrorism, all while declaring that they did not consider Hamas a terrorist group," stressed Darshan-Leitner.

According to the complaint: "Most of these wire transfers were made to account #4750401-0188-150882-6 at a Bank of China branch in Guangzhou, China, in the name of `S.Z.R Al-Shurafa.' The owner of the account, Said al-Shurafa, is a senior officer and agent of both Hamas and the Islamic Jihad."

The US has designated Hamas as a terrorist organization since 1997 and as “Specially Designated Global Terrorists” since 2001. As such, Hamas is subject to strict economic sanctions intended to prevent it from conducting banking activities that help finance their attacks.


Actual complaint for those who want to read:
http://he.scribd.com/doc/110977008/Rot-v-Bank-of-China

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
13. That's the idea in my post if the US acts as 'executioner'
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 04:44 PM
Oct 2012

Israel can remain clean as it were, the question is will China see it that way

davidhaslanded

(39 posts)
4. Chinese response
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 03:03 AM
Oct 2012
The New York branch of the Bank of China (BOC) Wednesday denied all the accusations in a lawsuit filed in the US by the families of eight Israeli students killed in a 2008 terrorist attack in Jerusalem, an officer from the legal department with the branch confirmed to the Global Times.

The BOC was alleged by the Israelis to have "intentionally and recklessly" provided terrorist groups including Hamas and Islamic Jihad with banking services. The lawsuit brought in the New York State court Tuesday seeks 1 billion dollars in compensation, the Dow Jones Newswires reported.

"The bank has always adhered to the regulations of China and other jurisdictions where the bank has branches. The bank's internal rules also forbid providing any financial services to terrorist groups," an officer with the legal department of the bank's New York branch told the Global Times. She said the bank had not been served with lawsuit documents.


http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90882/7990451.html

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
5. At the link it says "Terror-aid bank sult". 'l', not 'i'.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 08:42 AM
Oct 2012

Good lord. The spelling. The illiteracy. I'm used to bizarre headlines, but this is a bit over the edge. One typo and you have a porn movie title "Terror-aid bank slut". But I suppose they wil fix it soon.

Violet_Crumble

(35,977 posts)
18. OMG YOU SAID THE S-WORD!
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 05:54 AM
Oct 2012

What's wrong with you, bemildred? Is yr asterisk key stuck perhaps? The way it's spelt is s*** and if you spell it differently, it's worthy of a new Meta thread! A bit of sensitivity, fer f***s sake!

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
20. F**k meta threads. Is that better?
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 09:59 AM
Oct 2012

(Though, to be fair, sometimes they do have actual content.)

We've all been the subject of "intense interest" from time to time, have we not? And what does it amount to?
Wind. People need to lighten up. Anger just shortens your life. You can advocate for a cause without ranting, it can even work better.

Nice to see you around.

Violet_Crumble

(35,977 posts)
23. It's nice to see you too...
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 05:07 PM
Oct 2012

What with MIRTin' taking up a fair bit of time over the last few months, I'd weaned myself off this group, but now I'm finished with that I feel a bit more comfortable and time-free jumping back into groups like this one and forums like Meta, even though sometimes the high volume of asterisks in posts remind me of work emails when people are trying to get round the filter thingy...

Violet_Crumble

(35,977 posts)
19. I'd like to think it resembled Live Aid from the 80's...
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 06:01 AM
Oct 2012

Y'know, Bob Geldof gets on the phone to Bono and goes 'Mate, we're going to dig all the old fossils up and book Wembley and a bunch of huge places around the world and we're going to do Terror-Aid and sing a really boring song about it that will shoot to the top of the charts and make me squillions. For every dollar we make, half of one cent after admin fees are deducted, will go to the poor, struggling terrorists around the globe. The rest will go to the New York Post, coz we've got to have something to laugh at that's total crap, but only after I've opened an account with a Chinese Terror-Bank to put in all the earnings from Terror-Aid.'

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