Why Carter is wrong on State of Palestine

[ericson00]

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/30/opinions/carter-call-recognizing-palestinian-statehood/index.html

President Carter had his shot at Arab-Israeli negotiations, and, with the help of Sadat and Begin, made the most of it. President Obama has now had his. In the last couple of months of his administration, he should let this issue rest. Instead, he should adopt the diplomatic equivalent of the Hippocratic oath and do no harm. Because right now there's not a whole lot of opportunity to do good.
Ultimately, the key to solving the Israel-Palestinian conflict does not rest in President Obama's hands, nor in those of his successor. It's the parties, stupid. And neither they nor the peace process are ready yet for prime time.

[dubyadiprecession]

1. The Arab-Israeli negotiation was not about convincing both sides to...

come to an agreement, it was about what each side would take from our federal treasury to stop fighting each other.
Israel receives 6 billion a year and Egypt receives 3 Billion a year since 1978.

[ericson00]

2. Or maybe if the Palestinians would accept the permanent presence

Of a Jewish state, they'd have gotten something outta it

[leftynyc]

7. Let's not forget the FACT that

if the Palestinians have accepted their state in 1947, none of this would be happening.

[shira]

4. Maybe the Palestinians should've accepted any one of the numerous offers....

...for their own state going back 70 years. They'd have their state already. Of course we know why they haven't accepted, because that would entail acceptance of the Jewish state of Israel which they reject. Heck, you reject Israel as well so it's disingenuous pretending if only Israel did....

FAIL.

[shira]

6. No they didn't. Palestinian rejectionism & the Left's support of that rejection....

....is what has killed it. There were no settlements before 1967 and yet there weren't 2 states because Palestinians rejected Israel outright, just as you do now.

You even oppose the 1947 Partition plan, proving the point.

[geek tragedy]

8. the OP is right--the Middle East (Israel included) is a shitshow

that we should avoid touching whenever possible.

There is no two-state future in that region. Rather, it will be annexation, apartheid, and then finally (time uncertain, at least decades) a single binational state.

[oberliner]

9. Then the single binational state will split up into separate independent states

Like Czechoslovakia did.

[geek tragedy]

10. Not big enough and there's too much interspersal

Both sides will have to skip ahead a few millennia and put aside tribal religious rivalries.