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shira

(30,109 posts)
Tue May 17, 2016, 01:17 PM May 2016

The French peace initiative is doomed to fail

The French peace initiative was born in sin. It did not begin as an initiative, it began as a threat: If Israel doesn’t accept the diktat to recognize a Palestinian state, without negotiations and without the Palestinians having to recognize Israel, France will support Palestinian demands. The initiative includes demands made of Israel, like halting settlement construction beyond the Green Line—both in the Gilo neighborhood in Jerusalem and in the main settlement blocs that will undoubtedly stay part of Israel in any future accord. But there are no demands made of the Palestinians—not on the "right of return," not on stopping incitement, nothing. This isn't serious.

The Israeli anger—which is entirely justified—led to a certain change in tone. The French are no longer promising the Palestinians that they would recognize a Palestinian state if the talks fail, and they've ambiguously dropped their other preconditions. The Israeli anger increased following the French support of the Arab resolution passed by UNESCO, which in practice rejects any connection between Israel and Jerusalem. When something like this is coming out of Tehran, we can mock it. But not so, when it's coming out of Paris?

The French realize they've made a mistake. They condemned their own vote in favor of the resolution. French Foreign Minister Jean-Marc Ayrault visited Israel on Sunday. Next week, French Prime Minister Manuel Valls—a serious and brave man—will visit Israel as well. They're trying to convince Israel to get on board with their peace initiative.

All peace initiatives so far have failed. Even the dream team of Yossi Beilin, Shlomo Ben-Ami and the late Yossi Sarid couldn't deliver the goods. The Palestinians, again and again, have insisted on the right of return. Not a partial right or return or a symbolic one—a mass one. Not that Netanyahu would've agreed to what Beilin proposed, but Abbas said "no" to Beilin. Experience proves that it doesn't matter what the Palestinians are offered, it doesn't matter what the initiative entails. It's clear, even before the fact, that Abbas will say no. Even the French, despite Israel's anger at them, won't offer the Palestinians the right of return, and any proposal that does not include the right of return will receive the already-known answer. So, despite the pro-Palestinian bias, the result is known in advance....

more:
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4803916,00.html

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The French peace initiative is doomed to fail (Original Post) shira May 2016 OP
The US needs to cut all aid to israel until AFTER they return all settlements yourpaljoey May 2016 #1
So you're against the peace treaty with Egypt? Fozzledick May 2016 #2
You are a foreign policy genius 6chars May 2016 #3
I think I know who's wired as Trump's Secretary of State. COLGATE4 May 2016 #5
The most interesting idea in the article. aranthus May 2016 #4
The only alternative to the French peace iniative is the one-state solution. Little Tich May 2016 #6
Or a hamburger and fries King_David May 2016 #7

yourpaljoey

(2,166 posts)
1. The US needs to cut all aid to israel until AFTER they return all settlements
Tue May 17, 2016, 01:40 PM
May 2016

From there it should be be pay for play.
Supply Palestine with unfettered water and power, get a loan.
Tear down the apartheid wall, get a loan.
Clear the prisons of children, get a loan.
Hand over your nuclear arsenal, get a loan.
And so on and so on and so on.

aranthus

(3,385 posts)
4. The most interesting idea in the article.
Tue May 17, 2016, 02:24 PM
May 2016

Is that Israel should say "yes" to the Saudi Peace Plan, albeit with significant and necessary conditions. As far as his claim that the French Conference will fail, he's just stating the obvious.

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
6. The only alternative to the French peace iniative is the one-state solution.
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:18 AM
May 2016

At least that's what I believe.

Israel is running out of options, and people like Ben Dror Yemini can only delude themselves for so long that the Palestinians will somehow acquiesce to a non-viable state.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
7. Or a hamburger and fries
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:56 PM
May 2016

Or a trip to Disneyland

Or a slumber party

Or a foam party

All viable alternatives

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