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Mosby

(16,342 posts)
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 01:44 PM Apr 2016

Abbas: We are searching schools, in one 70 children had knives

Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas said on Thursday he was working to stop Palestinian knife attacks and other street violence against Israel and had offered to meet Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to rekindle peace efforts.

The remarks appeared to be an effort by the Western-backed Abbas to turn the tables on Israel, which has cast him as responsible for the diplomatic deadlock and the surge of bloodshed.

Speaking to Channel 2 TV, Abbas gave rare details on his domestic security drives, a touchy matter as many Palestinians deem such moves collaboration with their enemy.


"Our security forces go into the schools to search pupils' bags and see if they have knives. You don't know this," he said.

"In one school, we found 70 boys and girls who were carrying knives. We took the knives and spoke to them and said: 'This is a mistake. We do not want you to kill and be killed. We want you to live, and for the other side to live as well.'"

http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Abbas-We-are-searching-schools-in-one-70-children-had-knives-449917

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Abbas: We are searching schools, in one 70 children had knives (Original Post) Mosby Apr 2016 OP
you'd think the Israelis and their allies would stop trying to delegitimize Abbas. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #1
I agree Mosby Apr 2016 #2
Yep King_David Apr 2016 #3
Really interesting how this was reported on by .... Israeli Apr 2016 #4
Thanks for the info Mosby Apr 2016 #5
you are welcome ... Israeli Apr 2016 #6
Haaretz left out the part where Abbas calls child killers 'martyrs'... shira Apr 2016 #7
Despite the efforts of Abbas, this proves how sick Palestinian society is Albertoo Apr 2016 #8
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
1. you'd think the Israelis and their allies would stop trying to delegitimize Abbas.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 04:59 PM
Apr 2016

What's behind door #2 is not going to be a better deal for them.

Mosby

(16,342 posts)
2. I agree
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 05:16 PM
Apr 2016

But if he is the best option right now what does that say about Palestinian leaders?

Abbas is not capable of advancing the peace process.

There are, unfortunately, well intentioned, idealistic folks on both sides that think the Palestinian messiah is just waiting to be found. They will never find such a person, because being the leader of the Palestinians is more about money than anything else. The lure of becoming a billionaire like arafat is the driving force in Palestinian politics. It's a damn shame.

I feel sorry for them, the two state solution was a nice idea.

I'm sure they will make good Jordanian citizens.


Israeli

(4,159 posts)
4. Really interesting how this was reported on by ....
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 04:44 AM
Apr 2016

.....the Right wing JP.....and what was omitted .

Lets have the full version if you dont mind Mosby :

Abbas: Security Coordination With Israel Preventing 'A Bloody Intifada'

In an interview with Israeli journalist, the Palestinian president says PA on brink of collapse, urging Netanyahu to give him a chance to assume control of Palestinian cities.

Barak Ravid Mar 31, 2016


The Palestinian Authority is "on the brinks of collapse" if the current situation continues, PA President Mahmoud Abbas warned in an interview, broadcast Thursday night, with Channel 2 journalist Ilana Dayan.

Abbas said he was insisting on continuing security cooperation with Israel, but demanded that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu order the Israel Defense Forces to cease operations in West Bank Palestinian cities. “Try me for a week — if I don’t meet my responsibilities, then come back,” he said to Dayan in an interview on the current events show “Uvda.”

According to Abbas, during talks, revealed by Haaretz, between heads of the PA security forces and the coordinator of government activities in the territories, Maj. Gen. Yoav Mordechai and the head of the Central Command, Maj. Gen. Roni Numa, the Palestinians proposed that Abbas and Netanyahu meet to discuss the cessation of IDF operations in Area A, the area under full Palestinian control. However, Netanyahu did not give the nod for such a meeting, Abbas said.

“I’m prepared to meet Netanyahu anywhere, any time,” Abbas told Dayan.
The Palestinian president said Israel was breaking the Oslo Accords because since the year 2000 the IDF has been operating in Area A, and entering Palestinian cities without restriction, despite security cooperation with the PA. He said an IDF force had recently come to his own house in Ramallah and demanded that his security detail get rid of their weapons. Violence was narrowly averted, he added.

Addressing Netanyahu in the interview, Abbas said: “Give me responsibility for the Palestinian territories, and test me... if Israel has specific intelligence information, give it to me and I’ll handle it. If I don’t handle it, he [Netanyahu] can come and do it, correct? But they don’t give me the intelligence information…So what am I doing here? Where is the security cooperation? You want me to be your employee. Your agent. I don’t accept this. I want to do it myself.”

Abbas stressed that he retains security coordination with Israel to prevent escalation in violence as well as fears of a collapse of the PA. "If we give up security coordination there will be chaos here. There will be rifles, and explosions and armed militants popping up everywhere and rushing at Israel. Without the coordination, a bloody intifada would break out. I want to cooperate with the Israelis. There is an agreement between us and I am not ashamed by it. But [Netanyahu] must respect it."

During the interview, Abbas came out angrily against knife attacks by young Palestinians. “I would have to be crazy to tell my son that this is the right thing to do,” he said. He told Dayan that he sent the Palestinian security forces to schools throughout the PA to look for knives in schoolbags. “In one school we found 70 boys and girls carrying knives,” he said, adding: “We took the knives. We spoke to them and said this was a mistake. That we don’t want them to kill or die and that we want them to live and the other to live as well.”
Abbas said, regarding the knifings: “It is forbidden to spill blood for any reason. I am against this. I want peace. Give me peace in exchange. How will you give me peace? When a child does not see hope for peace, what will he do? Answer me, what will that child do?” Abbas asked Dayan.

Abbas also said Netanyahu should “give me responsibility and tell me that he believes in the two-state solution. This will give hope to my people and no one will dare commit a knifing, shooting or do anything else like that.”

The PA president said a Palestinian parent who found out his child was planning a knife attack “would take the knife away and lock him up in the house.”

Abbas said the condolence letters he has written to the families of those killed during while carrying out terror attacks do not demonstrate his support for their actions. “I don’t want him to be a martyr. I want him to live. But after he dies, it’s over. I don’t know where he goes. So don’t settle accounts with us over this.”

Abbas said: “Ask yourselves why a 15-year-old takes a knife and knows he’s going to die, and still goes. Ask yourselves why. It’s because he has no hope.”

Abbas told Dayan he rejected Netanyahu’s accusations that he was inciting to violence. “In the 10 years I have been in power my policy has been against violence, against terror, against killing. Why do they forget this now?”

When Dayan pressed him on the matter, he conceded that there is incitement against Israel in the PA, but said incitement also exists on the Israeli side. “I saw a rabbi who said, ‘they are bacteria. They should be sent to Saudi Arabia.” Incitement was wrong on both sides, Abbas added.

With regard to the soldier who shot and killed a wounded Palestinian terrorist lying on the ground last week in Hebron, Abbas said he had seen the film clip and was saddened by it. “This is inhumane, to shoot a living man. I don’t want to blame the entire Israeli people. I know, the Israelis are human beings. They are humane. But unfortunately, we read the responses and the protests in Israel against putting the soldier on trial, against arresting him. Such statements are disturbing and frustrate us a great deal.”

The Prime Minister’s Office responded to Abbas, saying “Netanyahu has always said he is willing to meet Abbas without preconditions. Abbas is the one who is unwilling to do so.”

Barak Ravid
Haaretz Correspondent

read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.712120

Israeli

(4,159 posts)
6. you are welcome ...
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 04:56 AM
Apr 2016

.....its a shame if you ask me Mosby , for a balance you should be able to read both , it doesnt cost that much tho ....does it ?

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
7. Haaretz left out the part where Abbas calls child killers 'martyrs'...
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 07:27 AM
Apr 2016

Abbas lies and incites Jew hatred that leads to murder which he rewards.
Haaretz then covers for Abbas.

Ilana Dayan but afterwards they become a shahid, or martyr, they are praising them ...

Abbas : Sorry, when he died ...

Ilana Dayan: They get consolation from you, and they get compensation, and become saints ...

Abbas : When he died, he is a martyr. When he dies, he becomes a martyr. Shahid ...

Ilana Dayan: But then it becomes a next example for...

Abbas : No, no.

Ilana Dayan: ..he becomes a role model. And then another one wants to be like him.

Abbas : Once he dies, it is another matter. Another matter. I do not want him to be a martyr. I want him to live. But after he dies, it was over. I do not know where he is going. So don't settle accounts with us over this.


http://www.mako.co.il/tv-ilana_dayan/2016/Article-954fa443fedc351006.htm?sCh=3d385dd2dd5d4110&pId=1898243326

 

Albertoo

(2,016 posts)
8. Despite the efforts of Abbas, this proves how sick Palestinian society is
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 09:22 PM
Apr 2016

In which culture do you find 70 schoolchildren of the same school carrying knives?

What are the parents doing? The school principal? Sheer lunacy.

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