Israel/Palestine
Related: About this forumPro-BDS group uses Israeli platform Wix to build website
A university group that supports the Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions movement built a website for its activities using the free Israeli website builder Wix.
The successful Tel Aviv-based company provides a platform for free website building and reportedly has over 50 million users as of 2014.
The Students for Justice in Palestine at the University of Denver recently set up a website using the service, prompting criticism that it was not really practicing BDS.
The group published a post on its Facebook page on Wednesday defending its actions and linking to a longer statement by the groups branch at Cornell University in New York State two years ago, which was slammed for the same thing.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/pro-bds-student-group-builds-website-using-israeli-platform-wix/
King_David
(14,851 posts)King_David
(14,851 posts)King_David
(14,851 posts)brush
(53,778 posts)That's kind of embarrassing.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Basically, they claim that "BDS is a tactic, not a principle, let alone a call for abstention and go on to explain how some contact with Israeli products is inevitable and unavoidable.
The problem with that argument is that then they pressure people to boycott various entities that do business with Israel - so it seems like it is OK for them to interact with certain Israeli companies but not others.
If you are going to boycott, then you need to do so consistently. You can't argue that it is fine for SJP to use an Israeli company to host their website but it's not OK for people to shop at a co-op that carries Sabra Humus (which is primarily made in the US and is only partially owned by an Israeli company).
King_David
(14,851 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)and before anyone says but it's from 2013 this where the link on their FaceBook page where the previous quote was taken from led
Exactly for this reason, the Palestinian call for BDS has reverberated widely. When the option to end the U.S. militarys support for Israeli aggression is banished from mainstream U.S. politics, when further peace talks mean more illegal Israeli settlements and taller walls, one of the few remaining avenues for advocacy on behalf of Palestinian self-determination runs alongside the global economic flows that link Israeli occupation and apartheid to the everyday decisions of producers and consumers around the world.
By combining the power of many around the world, boycotts shine a harsh light on Israeli settler-colonialism. Whereas Israel wishes these networks to remain inconspicuous, the BDS campaign uses the power of an organized consumer boycott to expose them, forcing the recognition of our different forms of connection with oppression and the oppressed. When we participate in an organized boycott of Israeli consumer goods, such as Sabra and Tribe hummus (whose owners financially support Israeli institutions of occupation and dispossession) or SodaStream kitchen appliances (made in illegal settlements under conditions of hyperexploitation), we choose to make visible the connections between Palestinians living directly under Israeli occupation and people living elsewhere. With these organized boycotts, this global economic structure, a largely hidden network of financial pipes and tunnels, acts as unwitting accomplice to members of Palestinian civil society in their call for self-determination. Boycotts therefore form a limited but necessary component of the BDS campaign. For supporters of the Palestinian call for BDS, boycotts serve as a tactic within a wider strategy to pressure Israel to change its policies and end its oppression.
BDS is a tactic, not a principle, let alone a call for abstention. The charge that any contact with Israeli products negates the logic of BDS can only be made by people who do not understand what BDS actually is, how its worked in the past, or why Palestinian civil society is calling for it now.
https://cornellsjp.wordpress.com/2013/11/26/sorrynotsorry-why-boycotting-the-boycott-fails/
King_David
(14,851 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)support the settlements?
King_David
(14,851 posts)BDS movement once left a severed pigs head in a Jewish supermarket.
BDS recently banned a Jewish American from performing at a reggae concert ( until the organizers of the concert humiliated BDS and did an about turn ) but had no problems allowing a bigoted homophobic hate group to perform.
BDS is not about settlements , it's all about Jews ( such as myself and half the people posting in this group)
BDS has come for Beenie and me....
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)your selective use of it speaks of the depth of your support why not just make it your sig line?
King_David
(14,851 posts)FYI sig lines don't show up in mobile devices .....
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)but how come your Hasbara one does then?
הַסְבָּרָה? hasbará, "explaining" - it ain't a dirty word. LOL
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=122261
King_David
(14,851 posts)And I agree with what you said about "hasbara"
In fact it's in my sig line
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)that shows up in the post where you say sig lines don't show up
Star Member King_David (13,472 posts)
20. WTF are you to question my support of Bernie?
FYI sig lines don't show up in mobile devices .....
הַסְבָּרָה? hasbará, "explaining" - it ain't a dirty word. LOL
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=122261
King_David
(14,851 posts)Nor does anyone using the DU mobile device operating system .
Ask someone around you for some tech support is best.
King_David
(14,851 posts)Little Tich
(6,171 posts)I'm pro BDS, but at least I know why and I know exactly what measures I support or don't support. I support boycotting Apartheid only, and if it's not Apartheid it shouldn't be boycotted or even given a negative moral connotation, IMHO.
I suppose they're students and have to learn, but I think they should give more thought to actually why they dislike Israel so much.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)King_David
(14,851 posts)Little Titch was bought off by Zionists?
Like Trump?
Donald Trump to Republican Jews: You Can't Buy Me
www.thedailybeast.com 2015/12/03 t...
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)King_David
(14,851 posts)... Kick
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)there's no second t in tich
King_David
(14,851 posts)Little Tich
(6,171 posts)I just consider it to be a weapon of last resort. Its main strenght is that it's about taking the moral higher ground. Just expressing a general dislike for all things Israel isn't a very good argument.
King_David
(14,851 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Students who do no research whatsoever. How typical of that entire movement. Shortsighted bullshit.