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Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 10:30 AM Nov 2015

South Africa issues arrest warrants against 4 Israeli commanders

Warrants issued on grounds of commanders' involvement in Mavi Marmara incident in 2010, when 10 Turkish nationals were killed when the IDF raided the Gaza-bound flotilla.

Ynetnews
Published: 11.17.15

South African police issued arrest warrants against four former Israeli military commanders over their role in the Mavi Marmara raid in 2010, when 10 Turkish nationals were killed aboard the Gaza-bound flotilla, the African News Agency reported Tuesday.

The alert arrest notice was circulated to the South Africa Border Control authorities on September 3 and confirmed on Tuesday by the SA Directorate of the Priority Crimes Investigation Unit (DCPI).

The DCPI said that the four - former IDF chief Gabi Ashkenazi, former Navy commander Eli Marom, former head of Military Intelligence Amos Yadlin and former head of Air Force Intelligence Avishay Levy - would be arrested if they entered South Africa.

snip* The decision in South Africa came at the conclusion of a four-year legal case involving Ms. Gadija Davids, a South African journalist who had been on board the Mavi Marmara during the raid.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4727004,00.html

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South Africa issues arrest warrants against 4 Israeli commanders (Original Post) Jefferson23 Nov 2015 OP
how in the world sabbat hunter Nov 2015 #1
The utilisation of South Africa’s ratification of the Rome Statute makes it possible. n/t Jefferson23 Nov 2015 #2
Doesn't the Rome Statute sabbat hunter Nov 2015 #5
It is connected through what is referred to as universal jurisdiction..it is Jefferson23 Nov 2015 #7
thanks sabbat hunter Nov 2015 #9
This explains a bit more, from the attorney: Jefferson23 Nov 2015 #11
South African Police Deny Issuing Arrest Warrants for IDF Generals shira Nov 2015 #3
Thats correct about Turkey and it is also correct the legal connection Jefferson23 Nov 2015 #4
International court demands reinvestigation of Mavi Marmara raid bemildred Nov 2015 #6
Good. n/t Jefferson23 Nov 2015 #8
Good. K-n-R. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2015 #10
kick azurnoir Nov 2015 #12

sabbat hunter

(6,835 posts)
5. Doesn't the Rome Statute
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 12:05 PM
Nov 2015

state that the ICC would be in charge of such things, not individual countries?

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
7. It is connected through what is referred to as universal jurisdiction..it is
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 02:45 PM
Nov 2015

a bit complicated. I will try and find an OP I read recently on the
representing attorney.

Good to see you posting again, btw.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
11. This explains a bit more, from the attorney:
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 03:15 PM
Nov 2015

Last edited Sat Nov 21, 2015, 04:24 PM - Edit history (1)

20 November 2015

“The factual situation is that they are Turkish warrants.’’

The dispute as to whether the warrants of arrest for the four Israeli commanders were issued by South Africa or by Turkey saw a controversial spur of headlines in the media.

Attorney Ziyaad Patel who represented the complainant, Gadija Davids, in conjunction with the Muslim Lawyers Association (MLA), in the case clarified the matter speaking to CII Radio.

In response to the later statement and upon practical analysis, Patel resolved that ,“the court order was granted in 2014 by the Seventh High criminal Court of Istanbul which lead to the warrants of arrest to the four commandos.”

Thus the warrants were not issued by South Africa, but by a Turkish court in 2014, Patel said.

The confusion stems from a statement issued by Brigadier Hangwani Mulaudzi- which confirmed that the warrants have been issued, will be exercised, and are in the possession of the attorney of record. “The error seems to be in the understanding of the framework,” Patel expounded.

Allegedly, the question that was put to Malaudzi was, did South Africa issue a warrant of arrest.

“The simple answer to that would have been no, he has no knowledge,” Patel pointed out, adding that it is not the factual situation.

The factual situation, he continued, is that they are Turkish warrants.

South Africa engaged in a two –fold enquiry in order to obtain authority for the execution and exercise of the warrants.

Essentially the question of jurisdiction had to be established and accordingly, it was found that South Africa could act in this particular matter.

The second enquiry was is there legislation to support South Africa’s action. Duly, such law did exist in the form of International jurisdiction.

Proportionately, this denotes that a person who is accused of committing war crimes and crimes against humanity must be held accountable and cannot be allowed to roam the world freely, Patel asserted.

The above precedent has been propelled by the Rome statute which obligates SA, in this instance to exercise the warrants of execution in terms of South African Law.

Arrest of Commanders

An arrest alert notice in this regard was circulated to the South African Border Control system on 3 September 2015.

This means that the Zionist commanders face imminent arrest upon entry into the Republic of South Africa.

Once the warrants of arrests are enforced, it will be communicated to Interpol Pretoria, which will then liaise with counterparties-the Turkish Interpol in order for a red alert notice to be issued.

Subsequently, both Turkish and South African authorities will engage in further deliberation on where the execution needs to be exercised.

The Turkish Republic holds discretion to request for extradition of the perpetrators.

http://www.ciibroadcasting.com/2015/11/20/attorney-slams-disinformation-campaign-seeking-to-diminish-symbolism-of-arrest-warrants-for-israeli-soldiers/

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
4. Thats correct about Turkey and it is also correct the legal connection
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 10:09 AM
Nov 2015

with SA is through the Rome Statute. The attorney Ziyaad Patel represents Gadija Davids,
this story is not over yet..if that is what you were thinking.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
6. International court demands reinvestigation of Mavi Marmara raid
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 12:57 PM
Nov 2015

Published November 8, 2015

International Criminal Court (ICC) judges have decided to order the reinvestigation of the Mavi Marmara raid case after prosecutors, who were previously probing the case, argued that there was no need to proceed to a trial. The judges decided that the complaint filed by Komor Islands, where the ship was registered, was valid and the prosecutors' decision not to proceed with the case should be readdressed. The judges also cited an appeals court decision to reject the arguments of the prosecutors.

The Mavi Marmara was the leading a flotilla of ships planning to deliver aid to the Gaza Strip when a raid on May 31, 2010 by Israeli special forces killed nine Turkish nationals and one Turkish-American dual national. One Turkish national, Uğur Süleyman Söylemez, died in the hospital in 2014 after being in a coma for almost four years. The raid caused relations between Turkey and Israel to nose-dive, which the U.S. has been trying to rescue ever since. The Turkish government has told Israel that unless Israel apologizes, pays compensation to the victims and lifts the blockade of the Gaza Strip there can be no improvement in ties. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in March 2013 apologized to then Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan for the raid. However, the protracted negotiations over the amount of compensation to be paid to Turkish victims of the raid led nowhere. Israel agreed to increase reparations for the victims to $20 million and a draft of an agreement between the two states was written in February 2014. The countries also agreed that the Turkish Parliament would drop the lawsuits against Israeli soldiers that participated in the raid with a new law, Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported last year. However, Israeli leader Netanyahu delayed approving the agreement a couple of times, then left it in the freezer before the national elections in Israel last year. Foreign Minister Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu said earlier this year that the ball was still in Israel's court.

Turkey has launched a multi-pronged legal offensive against all those responsible for the raid. The ICC case was launched by the Humanitarian Relief Foundation (IHH), which was one of the leading organizers of the Mavi Marmara flotilla.

Ehud Barak, who was the Israeli Minister of Defense when Israeli commandos raided the Mavi Marmara, is also facing prosecution. Lawyers for the Mavi Marmara case have delivered the court file to Barak who was in the U.S. attending a conference. Former prime minister and defense minister will be tried in the U.S. as Furkan Doğan's family has filed a case with the Federal Court of California. Families of other victims will also be able to participate in the case. Barak is accused of deliberately killing Doğan, committing an international terrorist act, abuse, torture and arbitrary detention, according to the IHH.

http://www.dailysabah.com/investigations/2015/11/09/international-court-demands-reinvestigation-of-mavi-marmara-raid

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