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Related: About this forumMK Zoabi Compares Israel To Nazis At Kristallnacht Gathering
At gathering hosted by far-left Jewish group, Joint List lawmaker says Jewish state engaged in ethnic cleansing against PalestiniansBy Matt Lebovic November 8, 2015, 11:32 pm
AMSTERDAM Denouncing Israel for racist policies against the Palestinians, firebrand MK Hanin Zoabi of the Joint (Arab) List party accused the Jewish state of crimes akin to those committed by the Nazis at an event marking the anniversary of Kristallnacht in the heart of Amsterdams decimated Jewish quarter on Sunday.
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Calling herself one of 120,000 of her people who were not expelled by Israel in 1948, Zoabi who was born in Nazareth in 1969 lashed the Jewish state for creating more than 80 laws that discriminate against Palestinians.
The Israeli rules, said Zoabi, are similar to the conditions under which Jews lived at the time of the 1938 Kristallnacht pogrom in Germany.
Standing just meters from the former site of a centuries-old Jewish orphanage decimated during the Nazi occupation of the Netherlands, she drew parallels between Hitlers genocide against the Jews and current Israeli policy against Palestinians and Israeli-Arabs.
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http://www.timesofisrael.com/mk-zoabi-compares-israel-to-nazis-at-kristallnacht-gathering/
King_David
(14,851 posts)Thank you for posting this - she really is showing her true colors.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)And from an Israeli legislator.
Just staggering levels of Jew-hatred, even among Palestinian citizens of Israel who sit in the Knesset.
Little Tich
(6,171 posts)doesn't mean that Zoabi can do the same.
Netanyahu and his f**kwit ministers are doing it because they're the bad guys.
Holocaust memorials are supposed to be commemorative events, not political platforms.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)The Hitler card should be retired.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Comparing Israel to the nazis while she is able to serve in the government takes a special brand of stupidity. And at the anniversary of Kristallnacht - Holy cow.
shira
(30,109 posts)Last edited Mon Nov 9, 2015, 07:27 PM - Edit history (1)
But rather than condemn her unconditionally, the Israel sucks crowd - as they ALWAYS do - find it best to deflect (towards Bibi or something else) in order to "balance" the criticism & minimize the situation.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)for those who embrace the magical balance fairy. If something offends, just say it offends without trying to tie it to something else - that only makes the person making that comparison look like a coward who is afraid to condemn. I have no patience for cowards.
Israeli
(4,157 posts)under consideration ...
would appreciate your comments on this :
Amos Oz: 'Price tag' vandals are 'Hebrew neo-Nazis'
Acclaimed Israel author Amos Oz slams price tag attacks and those behind them, claiming perpetrators 'enjoy support from nationalistic and even racist legislators.'
AFP, Ynetnews
Published: 05.10.14, 17:35 / Israel News
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4518061,00.html
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)I don't really understand what price tag means but the behavior of those racist assholes should be condemned loudly and they should be charged with whatever the law allows (at the VERY least, defacing property). I detest right wing governments that allow for racism without qualification.
Israeli
(4,157 posts)quote : Comparing Israel to the nazis
Is not limited to MK Zoabi leftynyc.
Back at the disengagement in 2005 the settlers used it every which way they could .
From orange stars and striped pyjamas on little children to cursing our boys and spitting on them as Kapos etc etc etc .
So spare me the indignation against Zoabi.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)or excusing the settlers? They're both repulsive and out of line. Why do you have a problem with condemning both sides?
Israeli
(4,157 posts)I dont have a problem with condemning both sides.....
see : http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=117760
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)the indignation against Zoabi?
Israeli
(4,157 posts)....comments and not against Amos Oz's comment ???
Amos Oz: 'Price tag' vandals are 'Hebrew neo-Nazis'
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)and Oz is making a (bad) analogy on the behavior of some settlers. You think those are comparable? I don't. She is also fast and loose with the definitions of genocide and ethnic cleansing (a common complaint I have with many in the Israel sucks brigade). That she did it at an event commemorating Kristallnacht is what I found particularly repulsive as the magical balance fairy gets used far too often on this subject. And while she's able to serve in the government of Israel, that was quite simply not the case for Jews under the nazis. The comparison is absurd.
Israeli
(4,157 posts)Maybe you want to change your post @
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1134118278
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)and until those settlers start lining up Palestinians and take them to the ovens, it will remain a bad analogy. And why refer back to that other article that says nothing about nazis whatsoever? Are you of the mind that if you disagree with one thing a person says EVERYTHING else said by that person is unworthy? I'm not.
Crunchy Frog
(26,610 posts)And it's usually the most RW ones doing the comparing, an example being the Gaza settlers wearing yellow stars when they were being removed from their illegal settlements. I've never seen the outrage brigade bat an eye over those Nazi comparisons.
Yet another double standard for Arabs.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)the Palestinians have a viable state, an airport, sea port, their own army,
their right to self determination..all denied b/c Israel has the power to
deny them through an illegal occupation.
People get up in arms about it, but the only answer to see that rhetoric die
off is an end to the occupation.
Netanyahu Denounced for Saying Palestinian Inspired Holocaust
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/22/world/middleeast/netanyahu-saying-palestinian-mufti-inspired-holocaust-draws-broad-criticism.html?_r=0
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Don't you think focus should be on the remarks in question, rather than trying to provide balance (or actually just ignore the content of the OP and say Jews are worse)?
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)There is nothing the Palestinians have done thus far equates to the abuse
shown them via Israeli government..nothing. This has all been documented
by numerous human rights groups for many years.
shira
(30,109 posts)Typical.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)Israeli
(4,157 posts)Only it was orange stars not yellow ones .
Crunchy Frog
(26,610 posts)and reading the occasional American news article. I didn't have the vantage point that someone in Israel would have.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)It is vile and disgusting - even more so when Jewish people do it, in my opinion.
Crunchy Frog
(26,610 posts)Which Netanyahu participated in.
http://www.jpost.com/Magazine/This-Week-in-History-Rabin-assassinated-380652
That was really vile and disgusting.
sabbat hunter
(6,834 posts)why doesn't she move out of the country that she obviously hates.
Little Tich
(6,171 posts)It's actually possible to love Israel and be opposed to ethnic cleansing at the same time...