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The United Nations suspended several UNRWA employees after UN Watch exposed that they were inciting violence against Israelis and Jews on social media. The suspensions came UN Watch published a report giving 10 specific examples of UNWRA employees calling for violence publicly on Facebook.
UNRWA spokseman Chris Gunness recently railed out against UN Watch's allegations, claiming they were making "baseless allegations about anti-semitism" and appealed to journalists to ignore the report.
However, now Gunness's fears seem to have come true as UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon on Thursday announced that the UNRWA staff members inciting anti-Semitic and anti-Israel violence on Facebook "have been subject to both remedial and disciplinary action, including suspension and loss of pay." He noted that UNRWA worked with a legal team at Facebook to remove 90 pages of those who falsely claimed to be current UNRWA employees and published violent anti-Semitic posts.
http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/UN-suspends-UNWRA-employees-for-inciting-violence-against-Israelis-on-Facebook-429896
Little Tich
(6,171 posts)Nevertheless, while I don't trust the article nor UN Watch, I would really like to know what UNRWA's investigation uncovered.
shira
(30,109 posts)You'll have to hunt for this down the page in the link below.
http://www.un.org/press/en/2015/db151020.doc.htm
Notice only the Jewish media is covering this while all Western outlets are censoring it?
Here's UNWRA's Chris Gunness trying to cover it up, attacking UN Watch...
https://twitter.com/chrisgunness/status/636262610015551488
https://twitter.com/ChrisGunness/status/636678966414213120?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
That asshole should be fired. All UNWRA workers inciting hate and violence vs. Jews should be shitcanned. Do you agree?
Now why is this not newsworthy? Why just the Jewish press covering it? This is big.
Where are all the pro-BDS anti-racists who cry foul against all forms of racism - including antisemitism? Are they on vacation?
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)antisemitism. The UN doesn't care either. It's why the UN has so little credibility these days. They're useless.
shira
(30,109 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)has to make a special trip to Jerusalem (we saw him and his entourage at the King David Hotel) because 10 countries are trying their best to start a fucking war instead of trying to take care of what's happening to the Syrians, the Kurds, the Yazidis, etc., you know they've completely lost their way. They should have told those 10 countries to fuck themselves....sideways.
shira
(30,109 posts)What else are they covering up?
Little Tich
(6,171 posts)I do believe in monumental incompetence as an explanation for many strange events, however.
shira
(30,109 posts)Last edited Thu Nov 5, 2015, 08:15 AM - Edit history (2)
1. The UN has buried this story in a press release - no further details. No firings.
2. The UNRWA spokesman denied this was happening and attacked the accusers rather than taking claims seriously. No actions taken against him.
3. The mainstream press hasn't devoted one line to this despite mass coverage in Jewish media, including Israeli, where there are more MSM press per capita in Israel than any other country in the world. IOW, they couldn't possibly miss this one.
4. NGO silence as well. No surprise given, for example, Amnesty International's refusal to take on anti-Semitism specifically.
This is a huge scandal. Fun fact is that things like this have been going on for years now. This is just a recent example.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)by pro-Israel advocates.
shira
(30,109 posts)....on social media?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)But it's not worth obsessing over
shira
(30,109 posts)Only the Jewish media is covering this.
I could understand not obsessing over this if there were no attacks going on - that would still be bad - but the attacks continue and inciting more on social media just fuels the fire.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)incitement in your view?
shira
(30,109 posts)Does that count as incitement in your view?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)I'll answer yours:
Jews should have every right to live inside a future Palestinian state, provided they disarm, pay taxes to the Palestinian state, and be fully bound by the laws of the Palestinian state, knowing they will not have the IDF to protect them.
Now answer my question: is posting articles explicitly calling for the ethnic cleansing of Arabs hateful incitement in your view?
YES OR NO?
shira
(30,109 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)shira
(30,109 posts)Otherwise, every anti-Zionist I've ever met is calling for the genocide (ethnic cleansing) of all Jews in Gaza and the W.Bank.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)UN Resolution 47/121.
You posted an article calling for Israel to do to the Palestinians what the Serbians did to the Bosnians.
In case you wonder why no one to the left of Mike Huckabee takes your fake outrage seriously.
shira
(30,109 posts)....that I didn't see any part about ethnic cleansing (page 2 of that article)?
This is all you've got - isn't it? Just personal attacks.
You couldn't even show any outrage for Hamas' child militants, even though you see yourself as pro-Palestinian....as someone who cares for the human rights of all Palestinian children.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)shira
(30,109 posts)The cold-blooded depravity of this crime makes it stand out, even in the context of the Jewish-Arab conflict. I would happily put a noose on the necks of the killers myself (I would feel this way whether they were Jews or Arabs). The fact assuming that it is determined that they are guilty that Jews did this is shocking.
http://www.jewishpress.com/blogs/fresno-zionism/a-very-bad-weekend/2014/07/06/
That's the same guy who wrote the article about ethnic cleansing.
David Duke would never write that about the murder of Jews, nor would Meir Kahane write anything like this about dead Palestinian kids.
That's the opposite of incitement. It would be nice if the UNWRA employees were writing that kind of stuff on their Facebooks rather than calling for the cold-blooded murder of Jews.
shira
(30,109 posts)shira
(30,109 posts)Far-right Austrian party expels MP for antisemitic Facebook post. Meanwhile UNRWA hasn't fired any teacher for same.
FPÖ MP expelled for anti-Semitic remarks
http://www.thelocal.at/20151102/winter-retreats-from-her-anti-semitic-remarks