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shira

(30,109 posts)
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 06:31 PM Oct 2015

Yitzhak Rabin Memorial Day Is Ultimate Proof of Israel’s Desire for Peace

JNS.org – This week, Israel commemorates the assassination of Yitzhak Rabin, a prime minister of Israel and hero in the eyes of the Israeli people. I was struck by how significant the day is for Israelis and what this means in the context of ongoing conflict in the Jewish state. The way that Rabin is revered as a hero truly shows the extent to which the Israeli people desire peace.

Born in Jerusalem, Rabin predates Israel by more than a dozen years. As a young man, Rabin witnessed and even led in various wars in which Israel was attacked by its neighbors, including the 1948 War of Independence and the 1967 Six-Day War. During the first intifada, he was Israel’s minister of defense. But even though Rabin undoubtedly witnessed anti-Semitism at its worst, he was a man committed to peace with Israel’s neighbors.....

The Israeli public was devastated. Rabin represented the desire and even more, the actualization, of building peace with Israel’s neighbors. At this point, many people were optimistic and truly believed that lasting peace could be in Israel’s future....

The fact that the Israeli people view him as a hero illustrates the true intentions of the Israeli people — to strive towards peace. Even in this tense time in Israel, Rabin is praised with fervor. Because he is the embodiment of the peace process in Israel, the obvious inference is that the peace process itself is praised with fervor even during times of war....

http://www.algemeiner.com/2015/10/29/yitzhak-rabin-memorial-day-is-ultimate-proof-of-israels-desire-for-peace/

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Yitzhak Rabin Memorial Day Is Ultimate Proof of Israel’s Desire for Peace (Original Post) shira Oct 2015 OP
Let's see on the day after Scootaloo Oct 2015 #1
never mind that rightwing incitement that lead to Rabin's murder, by Bibi's geek tragedy Oct 2015 #3
So you have no explanation as to why most Israelis believe Rabin.... shira Oct 2015 #4
couldn't be his early history could it? azurnoir Oct 2015 #5
"American Jews in Israel witness Obama’s prejudicial ‘slap in the face’" by the same author geek tragedy Oct 2015 #2
Good idea to call out dubious authors oberliner Oct 2015 #6
You believe that rubbish of an article ....... Israeli Oct 2015 #7
Here shira .....reality ...... Israeli Oct 2015 #8
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
1. Let's see on the day after
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 07:13 PM
Oct 2015

Fact is that anyone can be all pious and lip-wobbly on a special occasion. It's what you do the rest of the year that counts, though.

Hell, I went to church on Easter until I was 23. I haven't been any variety of Christian since I learned that crazy story about original sin when I was five.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
3. never mind that rightwing incitement that lead to Rabin's murder, by Bibi's
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 07:29 PM
Oct 2015

own allies, who continue to menace leftists in Israel

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
5. couldn't be his early history could it?
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 08:14 PM
Oct 2015
When Mr. Rabin disclosed in his 1979 memoir his role in forcing 50,000 Arab civilians to leave their homes at gunpoint during the war of independence, there was a furor in Israel, where officials had long denied that Arab civilians were pushed out of their lands.


http://www.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthisday/bday/0301.html


Palmach[edit]
In 1941, during his practical training at kibbutz Ramat Yohanan, Rabin joined the newly formed Palmach section of the Haganah, under the influence of Yigal Allon. Rabin could not yet operate a machine gun, drive a car, or ride a motorcycle, but Moshe Dayan accepted the new recruit.[15] The first operation he participated in was assisting the allied invasion of Lebanon, then held by Vichy French forces (the same operation in which Dayan lost his eye) in June–July 1941.[16] Allon continued to train the young Palmach forces.

As a Palmachnik, Rabin and his men had to lay low to avoid arousing inquiry from the British administration. They spent most of their time farming, training secretly part-time.[17] They wore no uniforms and received no public recognition during this time.[18] In 1943, Rabin took command of a platoon at Kfar Giladi. He trained his men in modern tactics and how to conduct lightning attacks.[19]

After the end of the war the relationship between the Palmach and the British authorities became strained, especially with respect to the treatment of Jewish immigration. In October 1945 Rabin was in charge of planning and later executing an operation for the release of interned immigrants from the Atlit detainee camp for Jewish illegal immigrants. In the Black Shabbat, a massive British operation against the leaders of the Jewish Establishment in the British Mandate of Palestine, Rabin was arrested and detained for five months. After his release he became the commander of the second Palmach battalion and rose to the position of Chief Operations Officer of the Palmach in October 1947.

During the 1948 Arab–Israeli War Rabin directed Israeli operations in Jerusalem and fought the Egyptian army in the Negev. During the beginning of the war he was the commander of the Harel Brigade, which fought on the road to Jerusalem from the coastal plain, including the Israeli "Burma Road", as well as many battles in Jerusalem, such as securing the southern side of the city by recapturing kibbutz Ramat Rachel.

During the first truce he led the Ben Gurion ordered attack by the IDF against the Irgun on the beach of Tel Aviv as part of the Altalena Affair.

In the following period he was the deputy commander of Operation Danny, the largest scale operation to that point, which involved four IDF brigades. The cities of Ramle and Lydda were captured, as well as the major airport in Lydda, as part of the operation. Following the capture of the two towns there was an exodus of their Arab population. Rabin signed the expulsion order, which included the following,
"... 1. The inhabitants of Lydda must be expelled quickly without attention to age. ... 2. Implement immediately."[20] Later, Rabin was chief of operations for the Southern Front and participated in the major battles ending the fighting there, including Operation Yoav and Operation Horev.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yitzhak_Rabin
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
2. "American Jews in Israel witness Obama’s prejudicial ‘slap in the face’" by the same author
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 07:27 PM
Oct 2015
On Oct. 1, President Obama pulled John Kerry and Samantha Power from Prime Minister Netanyahu’s U.N. speech to the General Assembly. As reported by Reuters, “During Netanyahu’s speech, Washington was represented by U.S. Ambassador Samantha Power’s deputy, David Pressman, and U.S. Ambassador to Israel Daniel Shapiro.” Hard to read this as not a slap in the face of the Jewish State.

In addition to signing a nuclear deal with Iran and boycotting the Israeli prime minister’s speech, the Palestinian flag was raised in New York City at the U.N. just the day before. This is the same flag being raised in the streets of Ramallah when Palestinians murdered two Jewish parents in front of their four children. Evan Cohen, in the Jerusalem Post, points out this fact: “The kind of celebration one might have expected earlier this week [was] the kind of celebration they reserve only for the happiest of events — dead Jews.”

Why is the Palestinian flag being raised in New York City at the U.N. headquarters, while on the other side of the world, Palestinians are raising the same flag in celebration of the slaughter of innocent people? The America that I know would not support this. Aren’t we supposed to stand for justice, religious freedom, and the simple right to life? As a Jewish American, I am choosing to live in the Jewish State, not in Nazi Germany where we needed to fear being attacked on the basis of our peoplehood. Even still, the U.S. government seems silent instead of supporting the Jewish people and even their own citizens in Israel.


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/oct/11/eliana-rudee-obama-reveals-anti-israel-prejudice-t/

Real genius, that one.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
6. Good idea to call out dubious authors
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 09:09 PM
Oct 2015

Would love to see more of that with respect to the articles we see here from Mondoweiss.

Israeli

(4,154 posts)
7. You believe that rubbish of an article .......
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 12:55 AM
Oct 2015

.....you can believe anything .

Forever?

Only one
Who believes that
We shall always enjoy
Absolute superiority
Can calmly consider
(Like Netanyahu)
Living forever
By the sword.

Rabin had
More understanding.

Published in Haaretz - October 30, 2015

http://zope.gush-shalom.org/home/en/channels/weekly_ad/1446164202/

Israeli

(4,154 posts)
8. Here shira .....reality ......
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 01:28 AM
Oct 2015
The death of Yitzhak Rabin's legacy

Israel will mark the 20th anniversary of Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin’s assassination at the annual commemoration rally held at Tel Aviv’s Rabin Square on Oct. 31. Former US President Bill Clinton is scheduled to speak at the event as is Israeli President Reuven Rivlin. The person who won’t be there is former Israeli President Shimon Peres.

The resounding absence of Peres, Israel’s ninth president, symbolizes a transformative process in Israeli society over the last 20 years. The Israel of Rabin and Peres, of the Oslo Accord and the peace process, of optimism and hope is, alas, no longer. Israel 2015 — the Israel of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon, Education Minister Naftali Bennett and former Minister Avigdor Liberman — is an insular, unyielding, distrustful and sober state. Even the pursuit of a peace process is practically considered illegitimate. Oslo has become a four-letter word, and the current wave of terror is bringing out the basest instincts and rattling already tense nerves. Democracy is being weakened, radical elements are gainning strength and the fundamental values of the Jewish state are under constant attack.

In the first decade after Rabin's assassination, which occurred Nov. 4, 1995, the remnants of the Israeli peace camp fought over the “Rabin legacy.” Today, this legacy has been so thoroughly rewritten that little of importance remains from it. In the past, Rabin’s legacy stood for striving for peace and reconciliation between Israel and its neighbors from a position of military and inner strength. Today, a large majority of the Israeli public feels that there is no such thing as the Rabin legacy.

That Peres will not be present at the main rally marking Rabin’s assassination has been met with almost total silence. Peres — who stood at Rabin’s side in the last minutes of his life, who sang the “Song of Peace” with him during the closing moments of the rally they attended that Nov. 4, who brought Rabin around to the Oslo process, who tried to continue along Rabin’s path but was halted — will make do this year with more marginal events commemorating the assassination. Peres has been pushed from center stage this year, as have the peace agreements signed by Rabin and the hope that Rabin tried to restore to the people.

At the end of the day, the camp opposed to Rabin, parts of which actively participated in the incitement against him in the last months of his life, was the camp that won. It took control of state leadership in the person of Benjamin Netanyahu, who won the elections conducted less than a year after Rabin's assassination, in May 1996. Afterward, in 2000, came the second intifada, which drowned hope. Now, the Israeli right has also taken control of the nation's collective memory. A representative of the right, President Rivlin, and even a representative of the religious Zionism that spawned Rabin's assassin, Yigal Amir, will be at the Rabin Memorial Rally in the form of the moderate Rabbi Yuval Cherlow. Rabin’s “way of peace” will have no representative.

Until now, Peres had addressed every memorial rally for Rabin. This year, however, several members of the Israeli Youth Movement Council, which organizes the event, rejected him. They felt that Peres’ presence would lend political overtones to the rally. Thus, the circle has been closed. The right wing's victory in Israel is complete. The way of peace has taken its last breath, along with Rabin.


It is important to remember, however, that the resounding defeat of the Israeli peace camp came about thanks to a partner: the murderousness of some Palestinians as reflected in the wave of suicide attacks that overwhelmed Israel after the Oslo Accord. This led to the rise of the right and the public's loss of trust in the possibility of achieving a real reconciliation with the Palestinians. Years after that came the “Arab Spring,” which turned the entire Middle East into a chaotic jungle where the only thing uniting its diverse components was hatred of Israel.

With the current state of affairs, Israeli society has reacted to its environs with its conditioned, characteristic reflex. Rabin must certainly be turning in his grave. Only minutes before Amir’s three bullets in Rabin’s back put an end to the prime minister’s life, Rabin had been singing the “Song of Peace.” Since his departure, the sound of that song has been muted, just like calls for the hoped-for peace.

Since Rabin's assassination, a debate has been waged in Israel about what would have happened had Rabin not been killed. Each side has its own theory. The right is convinced that Rabin would have lost the elections to Netanyahu anyway, and nothing would have changed substantively. The left is convinced that Rabin would not have allowed terror to continue to run amok and would not have hesitated to suspend the peace process until acts of terror had been suppressed.

Rabin was a pragmatic, security-oriented leader, a famed chief of staff for the Israel Defense Forces who opted for diplomatic negotiations, not out of love or esteem for the Arabs, but out of a sober, realistic assessment that such an agreement was in Israel’s best interest. In contrast to Peres — the hopeless optimist who dreamed of a “new Middle East” and nurtured relations of mutual trust with Palestine Liberation Organization Chairman Yasser Arafat — Rabin had no illusions. His handshake with Arafat in September 1993 on the White House lawn at the signing of the Oslo Accord almost cost him his health. Rabin’s dwindling adherents are convinced that he would have curbed terror, called Arafat to order, won the elections and completed the peace process.

Unfortunately, this debate can never be settled, and each side continues to stand by its version of “what if.” Meanwhile, what has been determined is the situation on the ground. Although some debate continues, the right has won this one. Peres is still convinced that the “way of peace won out.” He says that Netanyahu recognized the Oslo Accord when he carried out the withdrawal from Hebron in 1997 and when he signed the Wye River Memorandum in 1998. The ultimate proof to Peres is Netanyahu’s 2009 Bar Ilan speech, in which he accepted the principle of a two-state solution. The right, with its conviction in Greater Israel, had added its signature to the two-state principle. All that remains now, Peres believes, is to translate the speeches and agreements into reality on the ground. At the moment, however, reality is being uncooperative.

Right wingers grimace at Peres’ words, and there are many reasons for this. When the Oslo Accord was signed, some 110,000 Israeli settlers lived in Judea and Samaria. Today, there are about 400,000. According to the right, this situation is irreversible. No power in the world can evacuate such a large number of settlers. Everyone still remembers the harsh images from the 2005 Gaza disengagement, implemented by Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, during which some 8,600 Jews were evicted from their homes. As the end of 2015 approaches, Israelis and Palestinians are joined at the hip in a way that makes it impossible to disentangle the intricate Gordian knot that connects them.

The number of supporters of the two-state solution on both sides is steadily decreasing with time. In Israel and the Palestinian territories, the “one-state” concept has gained traction, albeit in two different forms, a Palestinian and an Israeli version. Only Peres continues to have hope, in the depths of his heart, for a miracle, that someone like a modern-day Alexander the Great will emerge with a huge sword to cut the Gordian knot. Perhaps it is because of this that he is on the margins and will observe from the outside the gathering commemorating his partner Rabin, who was murdered by a Jew in one of the most successful political assassinations of the modern era.



Source: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2015/10/yitzhak-rabin-assassination-shimon-peres-rally-20-years.html#ixzz3q1fJjgRR
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