Israel notifies Salfit farmers of plans to remove 140 olive trees

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

http://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=767849

NABLUS (Ma'an) -- Israeli authorities on Monday delivered notices to Palestinian farmers informing them of plans to remove 140 olive trees from the town of Qarawat Bani Hassan in Salfit district in the occupied West Bank, the farmers told Ma'an.

They said that the trees are located in the al-Safar area of the town, which Israeli officials consider a nature reserve.

The farmers did not provide any further details, and an Israeli nature authority spokesperson could not be reached for comment.

Khalid Maali, who monitors settler activity in Salfit, said that Israel often use nature reserves as a pretext to take over Palestinian lands in the occupied West Bank.

This is apartheid.

This is why we need BDS.

[Mosby]

1. Maan has no credibility.

[Purveyor]

2. nor does the state of israel... eom

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

4. To all DUers reading this...

This is the usual fare of the deniers.

They attack the credibility of the news outlet instead of accepting the validity of the story.

It could be Ma'an, 972mag, Mid East Monitor, Mondoweiss, Ynet News, The gaurdian, The Jerusalem Post or add your own newspaper of choice, but it is always the same cry fest: "Unfair!", "No Credibility!" Big Meanies!"

The criers have no credibility...IMHO.

[geek tragedy]

10. well, no, that poster thinks Kahanist sites and John Bolton are perfectly ok

So, they don't always cry "no credibility"--they just reject anything to the left of Sarah Palin.

[geek tragedy]

9. with members of the hard right, no it doesn't, but we don't care what members

of the hard right think

Members of the hard right think virulently rightwing, racist sources like algeminer.com and jewishpress.com and israelnationalnews.com and the gatestone institute are credible sources, which shows they are utterly detached from reality and have an upside-down understanding of what is a credible source

which is why members of the hard right can generally go screw themselves

[Mosby]

11. Israel national news was just used in LBN, the hosts thought it was ok.

Maybe you should take your concerns up with them. I know this because I alerted on it.

When maan stops making crazy shit up like Zionist boars I'll start taking them seriously.

Even the Arab media think they suck:

http://alray.ps/en/index.php?act=post&id=1759#.Vg2GVcrn9pU

[geek tragedy]

12. you alerted on Israel national news?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113489921

Mosby (5,435 posts)





Two Jordanians On Trial For Plot to Attack Israeli Embassy

Jordan put two brothers, accused of planning to blow up Israel's embassy in Amman, on trial Thursday. The two are part of a terror gang arrested during the summer, at the height of protests in Jordan against Israel during Operation Protective Edge.

A total of eight suspects, including a Syrian fugitive, were charged with plotting to attack US soldiers and blow up Israel's embassy in the Hashemite kingdom, as well as trying to recruit people to join the Lebanese-based terror group Hezbollah.

The brothers, 53 and 37, were accused of preparing a car bomb and getting ready to ram it into the Israeli Embassy in Amman. They are being tried on charges of terrorism, using illegal explosives, illegal possession of weapons, and conspiracy. The car and the weapons were stored in the garage of one of the brothers, the indictment said.

Police said they caught the two before they were able to carry out their plot because of a “work accident,” with some of their explosives blowing up while in storage. The explosion prompted a police investigation, which resulted in the arrest of the brothers, as well as the other suspects.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/188534#.VIt6UHsRSFo

Lots of popup ads at the link

bonus footage:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1134113101

Mosby (5,435 posts)





Gazan refugees denied rights in Jordan for over 45 years

JERASH REFUGEE CAMP, Jordan (Ma'an) -- Born in Jordan, 27-year-old Muhammad’s life hardly resembles a typical Jordanian's. Lacking any political or civil rights, Muhammad explained that he is forbidden from working in most jobs, even a teacher at a public school. Muhammad faces these rigorous restrictions because his parents fled to Jordan from Gaza following the 1967 War.

“Compared to other Jordanian citizens, I am nothing,” explained Muhammad, who declined to provide his last name. Sadly, Muhammad’s predicament is not unique. Approximately 140,000 Palestinian refugees from Gaza live in a similar limbo as Muhammad in Jordan: denied most rights and often forced into a life of harsh poverty.

Nearly 2.1 million Palestinian refugees live in Jordan. During the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, 350,000 Palestinians fled to Jordan with the majority moving to the West Bank, then controlled by the Hashemite Kingdom. The Nationality Law of 1954 provided Palestinian residents of the West Bank with full Jordanian citizenship after King Abdullah I annexed the West Bank on April 24, 1950. However, when the new wave of Palestinian refugees arrived in Jordan escaping from Gaza in the 1967 War, Amman treated them differently than their West Bank countrymen, refusing to provide them with Jordanian nationality or civil rights.

One of the most burdensome challenges facing Palestinian refugees from Gaza is the constraint on participating in the labor market. Gazan refugees are forbidden from working as doctors, engineers or lawyers. They are not permitted to work anywhere in the public sector, a major source of employment in Jordan. Therefore, Gazan refugees are forced to seek employment in the informal labor sector causing severe economic challenges.

http://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=767671

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1134113103

Mosby (5,435 posts)





Israeli bus set ablaze by firebomb in East Jerusalem

JERUSALEM (Ma'an) -- An Israeli bus was set on fire late Thursday in the East Jerusalem neighborhood of Ras al-Amud after Palestinians hurled a firebomb at the vehicle, witnesses said.

Locals said that the bus went up in flames after youths targeted it while driving through the neighborhood. Israeli forces arrived in the area and cordoned off the scene of the incident.

Rocks were reportedly thrown at the vehicle before the firebomb, with no injuries reported.

Israeli media reported that the driver of the Egged bus was Palestinian, and fled the vehicle following the rock attacks.

http://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=767677

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

13. ...

[Mosby]

14. there is a difference

I think posters in IP can use some of the websites you mention with discretion, note that I have never used arutz Sheva or jewishpress for opinion pieces. Given there obvious slant though, they should never be used in DUs LBN.

As for maan, they have a problem reporting facts but sometimes they are the only entity reporting an incident and they do cover the Palestinian experience, something very few other media sites do. They need to develop and enforce some journalistic standards and quit reporting as gospel what some dipshit says.

[geek tragedy]

15. "I have never used jewishpress for opinion pieces."

Oh?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113490186

Mosby (5,436 posts)





false symmetries and cycle of violence fantasies in the middle east

-snip-

The Middle East conflict is not a cycle of violence. It is not a “symmetric” campaign of retaliation by Jews against Arabs and Arabs against Jews. The Middle East conflict is as unambiguously a unidirectional campaign of violence and atrocities as was World War II. It is about Arabs murdering Jews and not the inverse. It is about Arabs seeking to deny Jews their human rights and their right to self-determination, and not the inverse. The Middle East conflict consists of a century of atrocities perpetrated by Arabs against Jews.

But the Western media are willing to go to extreme lengths to force the conflict into the prism of symmetry and the “cycle of violence” fantasy. Several months ago a Palestinian Arab teenager from East Jerusalem, Mohammed Abu Khdair, age 17, was kidnapped and murdered by a Jew. The Jew was mentally ill and believed himself to be the messiah. He was arrested and jailed by Israel. The killer did not represent anyone, was not sponsored by anyone, and no one in Israel cheered his crime. The killing of Abu Khdair came shortly after three Jewish teenagers were murdered by the Hamas in a well-planned operation. That was an operation sponsored, financed and planned by the Hamas and cheered by most “Palestinians” and by many Israeli Arabs. Many passed around candies in celebration.

Since the death of Abu Khdair, the media have exploited the case to sell their “symmetry cycle of violence” snake oil. True, the “Palestinians” murder Jewish children all the time but here we have a single incident of an inverted crime, an Arab teenager murdered by a Jew. The media obsession is far more than a postman-biting-dog stroke of interest in uncharacteristic news stories. The media have used the death to manufacture the symmetry fiction and spread it. After all, if it is symmetric, then both sides are wrong, which means both sides are right, which means there is no right and wrong about which to worry our pretty little heads.

http://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/analysis/false-symmetries-and-cycle-of-violence-fantasies-in-the-middle-east/2014/12/15/0/




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[Mosby]

16. it was a good essay

What do you think about Purveyor using INN for LBN? OK?

What about pro-Palestinian hate sites like mondowiess and ifamericansknew, OK?

[geek tragedy]

17. it was rightwing horseshit trying to claim that the Khdeir lynching was caused by mental

illness instead of racism.

Then again, folks such as yourself were peddling the claim that Khdeir was the victim of an "honor killing" before you self-deleted when the truth came out.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=65962

But we already know what you think of Palestinians,

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=88268

[oberliner]

3. Removing olive trees is why we need BDS?

Seems like rather a low threshold.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

5. Yer funnee.

[oberliner]

6. I stand with Bernie Sanders in opposition to those who support BDS

And in favor of those who support more bringing people together from both sides of the conflict to work towards compromise and peaceful solutions.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

7. Sure you do.

[procon]

8. I can't imagine the level of hate that destroys trees in a desert.

I live in the Mojave Desert where trees are scarce and precious. In addition to the value of the olive crop which is the livelihood of these poor farmers, those trees are a living link to the family's heritage and identity. The trees must have a strong cultural significance for the farmers who work their orchards for generation after generation

Olive trees have been planted in Palestine for thousands of years, and trees that are hundreds of years old are still produce olives. Israel’s relentless, illegal occupation and theft of Palestinian lands is criminal. By destroying these olive trees, Israel appears to be obsessed with inflicting more unnecessary pain, humiliation and economic hardship on the subjugated people of Palestine.