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R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 08:48 PM Sep 2015

Israel approves sniper fire and 4 year mandatory prison sentences against stone throwers

http://mondoweiss.net/2015/09/mandatory-sentences-throwers

Israel’s security cabinet voted unanimously Thursday evening to permit the use of sniper-fire against stone throwers in circumstances where an officer’s life is not at imminent risk. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu proposed the changes and declared the increased measures were a “fight against those who throw rocks and firebombs, and shoot fireworks.”

“Until recently police would open fire only when their own lives were in danger. As of now, they will be permitted to open fire – and they will know that they have the right to open fire – when they face danger to any lives,” Netanyahu said.

In addition to relaxing the regulations on live-fire, Israel also approved harsher punishments for children. Minors aged 14 to 18 will now be sentenced in prison for throwing projectiles and their parents will face fines. Child welfare benefits will also be revoked for convicted children.

A mandatory minimum sentence of four years will be given to adults found guilty of throwing stones or firebombs with a possible maximum sentence of up to 20 years. The security cabinet noted that they will seek legislation in Knesset in order to authorize this maximum sentence.


Israel has invaded the West Bank, destroyed Palestinian homes, destroyed Palestinian farms, destroyed Palestinian livestock and destroyed Palestinian lives. Israel's illegal colonists have spread over the West Bank, casting out the Palestinians as if they were the invaders. Israel's IDF enforces these things with the barrel of a gun: sniping children (yes dead) in the process.


If these actions speak for zionism then zionism has been corrupted in Israel. Israel should be ashamed for what zionism has become.
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Israel approves sniper fire and 4 year mandatory prison sentences against stone throwers (Original Post) R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 OP
Here's the actual story from a legitimate news source (AP) rather than a vanity blog oberliner Sep 2015 #1
So you're actually trying to justify the military shooting a kid with a rock. procon Sep 2015 #2
I didn't find any discrepancies between the OP and the article in your post. Little Tich Sep 2015 #4
Thanks for proving the point of my OP. Israel's right wingers have corrupted their form of zionism. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #5
Thanks for confirming--the Israelis see violence and killing geek tragedy Sep 2015 #7
The ultra orthodox are bloodthirsty anti Palestinian? King_David Sep 2015 #9
Yes, and hideously racist as well. They're Jewish Taliban geek tragedy Sep 2015 #10
so you're actually going to cite Neturei Karta as your go to? azurnoir Sep 2015 #12
I certainly am not going to defend the ultra orthodox King_David Sep 2015 #14
you posted the picture of Neturei Karta as the example when in fact they are a tiny minority azurnoir Sep 2015 #15
Yes King_David Sep 2015 #17
Ultra orthodox King_David Sep 2015 #18
These new rules won't apply to Jews, of course. Little Tich Sep 2015 #3
Whereas if Jews burn an entire Palestinian family geek tragedy Sep 2015 #6
That's it in a nutshell. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #8
Your not even pretending anymore, huh? Mosby Sep 2015 #13
+1 You noticed, too? grossproffit Sep 2015 #16
Huh? The only ones pretending are those geek tragedy Sep 2015 #19
And this is the practice in action. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #11
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
1. Here's the actual story from a legitimate news source (AP) rather than a vanity blog
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 08:59 PM
Sep 2015

JERUSALEM — Israel on Thursday approved harsher measures to combat the practice of stone-throwing amid a recent surge in Palestinian violence, widening the rules of engagement for police and vowing to raise minimum penalties for offenders to four years’ imprisonment.

The measures, approved by the Security Cabinet, allow police officers to fire live ammunition when there is an “immediate and concrete danger to police or civilians,” according to a government statement.

The development came as a Palestinian man died on Thursday from his wounds after being shot by Israeli soldiers in the West Bank last week.

According to the measures, officers will also be permitted to fire from 0.22 caliber “Ruger” rifles, an American-made firearm that police said uses a smaller bullet and would offer a quicker response against those throwing stones or firebombs or lighting fireworks. The rifle was not allowed previously, the police said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/israel-bars-non-muslim-prayer-at-holy-site-during-holiday/2015/09/24/26179c74-629f-11e5-8475-781cc9851652_story.html

procon

(15,805 posts)
2. So you're actually trying to justify the military shooting a kid with a rock.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 09:26 PM
Sep 2015

Your chosen source doesn't help your position. Shooting kids with a smaller bullet... really? That your rationale?

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
4. I didn't find any discrepancies between the OP and the article in your post.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 09:32 PM
Sep 2015

Is there anything in the OP that you object against?

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
5. Thanks for proving the point of my OP. Israel's right wingers have corrupted their form of zionism.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 09:54 PM
Sep 2015

Shoot Palestinian kids with stones.

Shoot Palestinian women in burqas.

Storm Muslim places of worship so that Yehuda Glick terrorists can "prayer mumble."


And there will always be a contingent of pseudo liberals that will find nothing wrong with mercenary right wing zionism.
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
7. Thanks for confirming--the Israelis see violence and killing
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 10:31 PM
Sep 2015

as the only way to deal with the Palestinians.

A license to mow down Palestinian kids should lead to an increase in the ultra-Orthodox signing up with the IDF.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
10. Yes, and hideously racist as well. They're Jewish Taliban
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 07:57 AM
Sep 2015
The survey distinguishes among the various communities in Israeli society - secular, observant, religious, ultra-Orthodox and former Soviet immigrants. The ultra-Orthodox, in contrast to those who described themselves as religious or observant, hold the most extreme positions against the Palestinians. An overwhelming majority (83 percent ) of Haredim are in favor of segregated roads and 71 percent are in favor of transfer.

The ultra-Orthodox are also the most anti-Arab group - 70 percent of them support legally barring Israeli Arabs from voting, 82 percent support preferential treatment from the state toward Jews, and 95 percent are in favor of discrimination against Arabs in admission to workplaces
.


http://www.haaretz.com/news/israel/survey-most-israeli-jews-wouldn-t-give-palestinians-vote-if-west-bank-was-annexed.premium-1.471644

King_David

(14,851 posts)
14. I certainly am not going to defend the ultra orthodox
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 04:47 PM
Sep 2015

I have no time for any homophobic antiZionist religious fundamentalists...Naturei Karte or otherwise....

What were you saying ?

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
15. you posted the picture of Neturei Karta as the example when in fact they are a tiny minority
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 05:01 PM
Sep 2015

of the orthodox community

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
3. These new rules won't apply to Jews, of course.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 09:30 PM
Sep 2015

For me, this is just another apartheid measure that's only used to further entrench the oppression of Palestinians in the West Bank and East Jerusalem. Also, by making Palestinian lives more miserable, Netanyahu pushes Israel one step further towards the one-state solution.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
6. Whereas if Jews burn an entire Palestinian family
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 10:29 PM
Sep 2015

to death they invent an excuse to avoid putting anyone in jail.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
8. That's it in a nutshell.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 10:54 PM
Sep 2015

Jewish terrorists immolate most of a Palestinian family and...

Will they be arrested?

Will they be tried?

Will they be incarcerated?


But snipe the dickens out of kids with rocks.


You know it's coming, and the slavish hasbara machine is ready and oh-so willing to explain away all those killings.


God, the mercenary right wing zionists are their own worst enemy.
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
19. Huh? The only ones pretending are those
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 08:29 PM
Sep 2015

who claim to be liberals but never say anything John Bolton or Richard Perle would disagree with.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
11. And this is the practice in action.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 04:20 PM
Sep 2015


Thank Netanyahu and his team of right wing zionists for giving us this carnage.
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