Netanyahu Wants Harsher Punishment for Rock Throwers

[Purveyor]

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu called for harsher minimum sentences for rock throwers at the weekly Cabinet meeting.

Netanyahu also asserted that Israel is committed to maintaining the status quo on the Temple Mount, but added that bringing explosives and pipe bombs onto the Temple Mount “is changing the status quo.”

Police in Jerusalem over the weekend began using the new open-fire orders against rock throwers, Netanyahu said, and additional forces have been added in order to tamp down recent rioting in the city.

“Stones and fire bombs are deadly weapons; they kill and have killed,” Netanyahu said. He also said that Israeli forces will implement a “simple principle” in dealing with rioters: “Whoever tries to attack us, we will hurt him.”

Read more: http://forward.com/news/breaking-news/321234/netanyahu-wants-harsher-punishment-for-rock-throwers/#ixzz3mJrutGGf

[orpupilofnature57]

1. " Open Fire orders " isn't harsh enough ?

[Ed Suspicious]

2. “Whoever tries to attack us, we will hurt him.” This sort of bluster makes me want to

fucking puke no matter who it comes from.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

3. So I guess that the murderers of the Dawabsha family are out of the news now.

Torch Palestinians and get a walk through, throw a stone and get killed or a long-ass prison sentence...just because we can.

Fuckers.

[oberliner]

4. Israeli Court Upholds Administrative Detention for Meir Kahane’s Grandson

An Israeli court upheld the administrative detention order for a suspected Jewish extremist.
The Lod District Court on Sunday said the order issued on Aug. 15 by Defense Minister Moshe Yaalon against Meir Ettinger, the grandson of the slain far-right activist Meir Kahane, will continue for six months.
Israeli authorities believe Ettinger oversees a Jewish terrorist group. He was arrested in connection with the firebombing of a home in the West Bank Palestinian village of Duma that left an infant and his parents dead. No suspects have been charged in the attack.
Shin Bet officials have said Ettinger heads a movement that also was responsible for the June arson of the historic Church of the Multiplication of the Loaves and Fishes and seeks to bring down the government and replace it with a Jewish theocracy.

http://forward.com/news/breaking-news/321251/israeli-court-upholds-administrative-detention-for-meir-kahanes-grandson/#ixzz3mKvu8WDG

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

5. "No suspects have been charged in the attack."

I repeat. "No suspects have been charged in the attack. "


Please proceed, ober.

[oberliner]

6. They should just hurry up and charge somebody

Rather than doing a thorough investigation.

[Little Tich]

7. Isn't that what they usually do? n/t

[oberliner]

8. No, they are kind of notorious for lengthy investigations

And they used to try to have gag orders as well but in this internet age, that seems to not be so easy anymore.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

9. Yes, so lengthy that some investigations seem to take forever...

depending on the nationality of course.

[oberliner]

12. Be that as it may, I hope that they get this right

And that the criminals are brought to justice.

It is important not just that someone is charged, but that they are convicted.

[Little Tich]

10. No, I meant that they just charge anybody for a crime without bothering to find out if they

actually did it.

This only applies to Palestinians of course, but if they're going to use the same rules for Jews, why don't they just just charge some random settlers and raze a few of their homes?

Do you actually believe that there is rule of law in the West Bank? Can you show me a single case where settlers have been charged and punished in the same way as Palestinians for the same crime?

[oberliner]

11. When you say Palestinians, does that include Palestinian citizens of Israel?

You mention the West Bank - but the Palestinians living there are not Israeli citizens, so I think that might account for the different approach.

Personally, I think that rounding up a bunch of Jewish extremists and holding them indefinitely is pretty similar to what they do with respect to Palestinians.

In any case, I think they are very keen on getting this case right (I know you don't agree).

[Little Tich]

13. Of course I meant the occupied territories, while there are discrepancies in how the law

is applied due to the ethnicity of the law-breakers and the victims, they're at least judged in the same courts with the same laws. There will be plenty of examples of fair treatment of Arab Israelis in the Israeli justice system.

The same crime gives the same time regardless of nationality in all democracies except for the territories occupied by Israel. I think it amounts to apartheid to have two separate criminal justice systems for civilians in the same area. Do you think it's right to have one law for Palestinian murderers or stone-throwers and another for Israelis in the West Bank?