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R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 10:39 AM Aug 2015

'Why did they burn a baby alive? What did he do?'

http://972mag.com/why-did-they-burn-a-baby-alive-what-did-he-do/109508/

In the hours of the morning, the road leading from Nablus and the nearby settlements to the West Bank village of Duma is empty. Generally, when Palestinians attack Jewish settlers, the army hermetically seals the roads and raids the neighboring villages. Things are different this time around.

Inside Duma, dozens gather around the two homes that were set ablaze in the early hours of Friday morning. In one of them, 18-month-old Ali Dawabshe was burned to death in an attack by Jewish Israelis. His mother, father and four-year-old brother Ahmed were badly wounded.

The family’s home is almost entirely burned, including the bedroom, the kitchen and part of the living room. It is hard to recognize the remains of furniture or even clothing. Relatives are busy trying to salvage whatever they can. Inside the charred bedroom, relatives have places photographs of Ali on the ground as a makeshift memorial.

Yousef, a paramedic from the nearby village Aqraba, described the events of the morning to +972: “At 2 a.m. we received a report about an incident. I arrived with my ambulance and saw the house engulfed in flames. We evacuated the family to Rafidia Hospital in Nablus. The little boy died and the rest were in such bad condition that we needed to transfer them to Israel. A helicopter came and took them.”
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BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
2. He was the "price tag" for opposing Israel's land theft (settlements)
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 11:11 AM
Aug 2015

That's how the thieves (settlers) operate.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
3. more precisely he was the 'price tag' for 2 smallish concrete buildings being demolished
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 11:27 AM
Aug 2015

earlier this week in the Beit El settlement, because they were found to have been built on privately owned Palestinian land. Bibi green lighted another 300 units being built in Beit El as an apology

GitRDun

(1,846 posts)
4. Nothing.
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 12:09 PM
Aug 2015

When neither side sees the humanity of the other, these things happen.

I'm sure there are plenty of Israel apologists on DU that can link to articles of Jewish children killed by Palestinian rockets or gunfire.

A pox on both their houses....the US too, we fund and enable this crap.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
5. Slain Palestinian toddler’s parents, brother still fighting for lives
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 12:17 PM
Aug 2015
His father, Saad, was being treated for third-degree burns at the Soroka Medical Center in Beersheba, where a spokeswoman described his condition as “critical”.

Mother Riham and four-year-old brother Ahmed were being treated at Sheba Medical Center in Tel Hashomer near Tel Aviv, where a spokeswoman described their condition as life-threatening.

Saad has burns on 80 percent of his body, Riham is suffering from burns over 90% of her body, and four-year-old Ahmad has 60% burns, Army Radio reported.


but not to worry Israel is keeping a lid on things

North of Ramallah, troops shot Laith Khaldi, 17. He was pronounced dead early on Saturday. The army said he was throwing a fire bomb at an army position.

On Saturday morning, Palestinians and Jewish settlers clashed near Qusra in the northern West Bank, trading volleys of stones until the Israeli army declared the area a closed military zone.


http://www.timesofisrael.com/slain-palestinian-toddlers-parents-brother-fighting-for-lives/

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
9. Same old Israeli propaganda talking point. It's Bullshit.
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 01:25 PM
Aug 2015

You want to compare 19th century attitudes and actions to those of the 21st century. Sorry, but the world has come a long, long way since then. We've actually been to the moon, or haven't you heard? Take your head out of the sand (or wherever you've got it).

dougolat

(716 posts)
12. Whoa, pard! ..Merely pointing out the attitude of settlers...
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 01:44 PM
Aug 2015

....toward those being displaced.

That's hardly a defense of the instance, but a criticism of the process.
Comprende?

GitRDun

(1,846 posts)
14. I hear ya...
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 02:02 PM
Aug 2015

What the settlers ought to do, really, is skip to the end game lol...

Slaughter another half a million Palestinians, move those remaining to reservations in remote areas and let them build casinos!

That chuckle may be in bad taste but it symbolizes the lunacy of what the world is allowing to happen.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
11. Do you like apples? We are, today, sending drones with missiles that burn babies alive,
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 01:30 PM
Aug 2015

so it's not just the "settlers"...

it's us. You, me, and the creeps we pay to target "bad people" and burn babies up as "collateral damage" - a term we use instead of "poor planning" so people can sleep at night.

How 'bout them apples?

That said, we didn't set off in a murderous rampage and burn people with no more care for them than a dead horse. We were highly skilled, thoughtful, considerate, and really, really sorry.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
15. We built a nation on the bones of 80 million or so people, stole their villages and wealth, and
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 04:00 PM
Aug 2015

tried to destroy the culture and humanity of those that were left. Still do, too.

But people today, you and me, are culpable in current events. Apparently we learned from our earlier experience that killing people is profitable, not wrong.

But in answer to your question, yes.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
16. Why would one want to compare ateocities that
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 11:24 PM
Aug 2015

happened before modern times?

Is it a 1:1 comparison?

Are we living in the 16-1800s?

dougolat

(716 posts)
17. Not at all, but the relationship between those moving in ...
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 02:52 AM
Aug 2015

....and those being pushed aside seems fraught with enmity and abuse, even violence. Certainly the enthusiasm for such violence got out of hand, almost universally, in the case of the Amerinds; but the tendency should be recognized, even in the "Modern World", even in the case of neighborhood gentrification, and most definitely in the case of the illegal settlements in Palestinian areas.

To act as if this atrocity stands alone is dishonest; such events are virtually guaranteed. The lessons of the past argue powerfully against the settlements, and if they continue, point out the need to control the settlers as restrictively as the Palestinians are.

Commit to ignoring the past? Fine, lynchings have nothing to do with the current murders, excess wealth has nothing to do with corruption, huge businesses should make the big decisions, and military extravagance has nothing to do with the promotion of dishonest wars. So, "Woe is me, we've never seen these problems before, what ever shall we do?"

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