Israel/Palestine
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As Jews around the world mourned the destruction of the ancient Jewish temples on Sunday with the observance of Tisha BAv, Palestinian Minister of Religious Affairs Mahmoud Al-Habbash told Israels NRG that an Israelite temple never stood atop the Temple Mount.
The Al-Aqsa Mosque is located atop the Temple Mount, and not the Temple. Look for your Holy Temple in another place, said Al-Habbash.
Al-Habbash also assailed Jewish visitors who visited the holy site on Sunday, saying that there is no room for religious pluralism on the Temple Mount.
Al-Habbash added that, this is a holy site for Islam, and only for Islam. Al-Aqsa Mosque is a Muslim site, and we do not recognize [as legitimate] any of the stories about the Temple.
http://www.algemeiner.com/2015/07/26/as-jews-mourn-destruction-of-temple-palestinian-authority-denies-it-ever-existed/
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)"He added that the Palestinian Authority will not allow any Israeli presence in the Holy Mosque. This is taboo for us
Not a single Israeli has the right to pray atop the Aqsa Mosque grounds. This is a mosque and we do not recognize [anyone elses] rule over this place.
Poor misunderstood and persecuted Palestinians...
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Hardly. It is the other way around.
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)the thing was necessary. You are right, of course.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)We do not look at this issue as a religious issue, but only as a political conflict, he said. The historical claims are not the issue. The occupation is the problem. We are speaking of a situation where one state has occupied another state.
He added that the Palestinian Authority will not allow any Israeli presence in the Holy Mosque. This is taboo for us Not a single Israeli has the right to pray atop the Aqsa Mosque grounds. This is a mosque and we do not recognize [anyone elses] rule over this place.
but that does not stop algeminer which continues with it's religious claims, algeminer habitually interchanges Jew and Israeli, as though they are synonymous however seeing as how nearly 1/4 of Israel's population is not Jewish that is hardly true
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azurnoir
(45,850 posts)but don't let that stop you, if you do not know what the religious significance of the Haram al Sharif is in Islam (noble sanctuary/Temple Mount) , Google could be your friend
shira
(30,109 posts)That's not tolerant, you know. He could be more inclusive if he were a decent person. They didn't represent Israel. They came there as Jews to pray, not Israelis.
That's an attack on Jews, as a whole, who are not allowed there. Not just Israelis. And also for Christians who see it as a Holy place.
You're defending that hatred.
Igel
(35,320 posts)We do not look at this issue as a religious issue, but only as a political conflict, he said. The historical claims are not the issue. The occupation is the problem. We are speaking of a situation where one state has occupied another state.
See? All you need to do is recognize that the PA is not a religious organization; if it were, it would be an entirely different problem in resolving the "occupation." Alter the stress a little, and (1) you make sense of the positive claims and (2) you suddenly don't have to simply read a lot of the text as "...". In other words, everybody, in 9th grade, should be taught the basic rules of cohesion and coherence (Halliday and Hasan, in other words--state of the art from 40 years ago, but apparently double-plus super-duper rocket-science).
However, the PA fully recognizes but does not claim jurisdiction over the issue as a primarily historical or religious issue, which is how many other organizations and Palestinians view it. They are not denying squat--that's for pundits to do with a strong motivation and axe to grind. They are merely narrowing their viewpoint.
Al-Habash denies religious pluralism, which for him is political (but of course; water may be necessary for survival, but water is political, one does not deny the other); he claims the Mount is a holy site, not a "political site", for Muslims and only Muslims. It's nothing new, it contiues the PA's denial of "Jewish" history and religious claims, which means that it is a historical and religious issue. But for them, it's about recognizing or denying Israeli or Zionist or Jewish rule over the place. And that makes it political.
For the primarily political, religion, like water, is political. For religionists, religion is primarily religious, and politics are also religion. For the primarily political, water is political. For the biologist and thirsty marathon runner, water is primarily about biology.