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shira

(30,109 posts)
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 02:11 PM Jun 2015

Hamas Saves IDF the Trouble and Attacks Itself with Rocket

Gaza terrorists last night saved the IDF the task of having to retaliate for rocket fire and did so itself, with the missile exploding on a house in Gaza, not in Israel. The IDF confirmed the “self-retaliation” to The JewishPress.com Friday morning , but a spokeswoman said it is not known if there were any injuries.

Recent rocket fire from Gaza has been met by immediate IDF retaliation, a “proportional” response that is careful not to injure anyone if the rockets explode in “open areas” in Israel.

Southern Israeli citizens raced to bomb shelters Thursday night to the sound of warning sirens of an approaching missile. In Gaza, there are plenty of shelters for missiles and bombs, but there are few bomb shelters, except perhaps in the houses of the terrorist echelon.

Thursday night’s rocket damage to a residence was disproportional, but neither Hamas nor the Salafists (ISIS/Gaza) have yet complained to the United Nations.

http://www.jewishpress.com/news/breaking-news/hamas-saves-idf-the-trouble-and-attacks-itself-with-rocket/2015/06/12/

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shira

(30,109 posts)
1. Rocket fired towards Israel lands short inside of Gaza
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 02:12 PM
Jun 2015

Tensions on border rise as attempted attack marks fourth such incident in recent weeks

Palestinians in the Gaza Strip fired a rocket toward southern Israel Thursday night but it landed inside the Palestinian territory, the army said.

"The rocket that was launched from Gaza earlier this evening, fell short and landed in the Gaza Strip," army spokesman Lieutenant Colonel Peter Lerner said on Twitter. Nonetheless, the attack triggered warning sirens in several southern Israeli towns, causing thousands to take shelter.

Earlier, the Israeli army released a statement confirming that at least one "rocket was launched from the Gaza Strip to Southern Israel."

This is the fourth such attack in the last two weeks. As after previous attacks, Islamic State supporters in Gaza claimed responsibility for the launch.

On Saturday another rocket from Gaza was fired into southern Israel. The rocket struck open ground south of the city of Ashkelon.


http://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel/diplomacy-defense/74596-150611-israel-sirens-warning-of-gaza-rockets-blare-in-ashkelon

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
4. Perhaps the DU silence isn't related to not caring about
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 10:44 PM
Jun 2015

Hamas, shira. Perhaps DUers don't respect the poster of the OP.

Hence the reluctance to bother replying.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
8. World silence, BDS silence, not DU silence.
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 07:00 AM
Jun 2015

Those who protest Israel with "Hamas, Hamas, Jews to the Gas" during BDS rallies.

Such proud moments for the BDS crew...

They support the tunnel buildup & that's why they're silent. They are itching for another war, and then another, and another....to the last drop of Palestinian blood if that's what it takes. They can't wait until Israel has to defend against Hamas & these tunnels so they can howl about the Jews being "child-murderers".

Remember how it works?

Silence for now in support of the Hamas war-effort, until Hamas decides to go to war & Israel starts defending. Then the silence stops & the Jew-hating rage begins.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
9. Yes, shira, Israel is the eternal victim while
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 10:08 AM
Jun 2015

it destroys everything Palestinian.

And the hasbarist line of bullshit is that BDS us full of Jew hatred.

Perhaps you realize that Hamas is not BDS.

Perhaps you realize that Israel is not the victim but really is the victimizer.

Perhaps you believe you can reel in some gullible readers with your song and dance about poor Israel or how you believe everybody hates it.

The fact of the matter is that Israel and its bankrupt supporters only have themselves to blame for the mess they have made, but oh do they love to throw the anti-semite accusations around.

If you support Apartheid Israel then you are no better than the illegal colonists that steal land and property that does not belong to them seeing how Israel supports these illegal actions.

But please go pat yourself on the back. Israel is in am end game of its own choosing with the fundie expansionists that are mow in power.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
10. You should be outraged that Hamas is building tunnels using forced....
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 06:50 AM
Jun 2015

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.....child labor for a buildup towards another war, rather than using their resources to build homes and better lives for Gazans.

You should be outraged that they're still firing missiles at Israel, knowing what the consequences are. Hell, they're bombing themselves with their own shitty weaponry.

Why isn't the Mondoweiss crowd (and their fellow worldwide anti-zionist BDS'ers) denouncing this?

Looks like they support Hamas, not the Palestinian people, and certainly not Palestinian children.

What do you think?

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
11. Nobody I know supports hamas, but why do you
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 09:06 AM
Jun 2015

seemingly support an apartheid, hateful, fundie Israel that is threatening to annex what does not beling to it?

It's your turn, shira. You either denounce apartheid Israel or you support its illegal, illegitimate and hateful actions.

Well, which is it?

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
12. Anti-Zionist BDS'ers call Hamas freedom (resistance) fighters....
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 09:44 AM
Jun 2015

....while whitewashing the Hamas charter that calls for killing Jews worldwide. They ignore or deny Hamas' brutality towards Gazan children, including war crimes like using child-combatants & shields (meaning they condone all that). They supported Hamas' decisions last year to reject each & every ceasefire call to end the war. They make excuses for terror tunnels while claiming rockets are self-defense.

So yeah, that's supporting Hamas. Especially the part about ending the Jewish state.

That's BDS in a nutshell, right?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
15. No ceasefire without justice for Gaza
Mon Jun 15, 2015, 06:50 PM
Jun 2015

Likewise, Hamas represented the sentiment of the vast majority of residents when it rejected the unilateral ceasefire proposed by Egypt and Israel without consulting anyone in Gaza. We share the broadly held public sentiment that it is unacceptable to merely return to the status quo – in which Israel strictly limits travel in and out of the Gaza Strip, controls the supplies that come in (including a ban on most construction materials), and prohibits virtually all exports, thus crippling the economy and triggering one of the highest poverty and unemployment rates in the Arab world.

To do so would mean a return to a living death.

Unfortunately, past experience has shown that the Israeli government repeatedly reneges on promises for further negotiations, as well as on its commitments to reform.

Likewise, the international community has demonstrated no political will to enforce these pledges. Therefore, we call for a ceasefire only when negotiated conditions result in the following:

Freedom of movement of Palestinians in and out of the Gaza Strip.
Unlimited import and export of supplies and goods, including by land, sea and air.
Unrestricted use of the Gaza seaport.
Monitoring and enforcement of these agreements by a body appointed by the United Nations, with appropriate security measures.

https://electronicintifada.net/content/no-ceasefire-without-justice-gaza/13618

King_David

(14,851 posts)
5. I believe the poster who attacked you on this thread
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 11:17 PM
Jun 2015

Actually is expressing the sentiment most DUrs feel about himself.

Whatever he said about how DUrs feel about you actually is what DUrs feel about him.

grossproffit

(5,591 posts)
6. This is why I rarely post on this forum. What's the point?
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 11:57 PM
Jun 2015

The hasbara accusations have become so boorish. Actually, the entire hasbara thing just proves to me how honest Israel is.

How many other groups would come forth and admit that they have an educational system in place to counter the propaganda of those who seek to destroy Israel? I can't think of a one, can you?

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
18. I rarely post here either
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 05:16 AM
Jun 2015

But I'll damn well keep poking my head in just to make sure they don't think they own this forum or think that everyone agrees with them. It makes them feel better to think we're being paid by Israel (bullshit) but their delusion that most (or even many) Americans agree with them is their own problem.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
16. The article is false all around : Gaza Salafi group claims responsibility for Thursday rocket attack
Mon Jun 15, 2015, 06:58 PM
Jun 2015

The Israeli Air Force did not retaliate for the rocket fired on Thursday night. Initially the IDF said the rocket fell in an open area in southern Israel where sirens had gone off. Later the military said that the projectile fell short and exploded inside the Gaza Strip. There were no reports of injuries.

Israel’s former foreign minister Avigdor Liberman said in a Times of Israel interview this week that Israel had lost its deterrence in Gaza, that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu lacked the will to take on Hamas, and that Israel has entered a “silent” agreement with Hamas under which it is being allowed to rearm and improve its military capabilities.

Military analysts say the rockets fired by the Salafi group were intended to hurt Hamas by drawing Israel to respond. The terror group controlling the Gaza Strip has recently come under criticism from smaller groups identified with the Islamic State and other radical Sunni organizations. In a competition of extremists, the smaller groups, whose members are often disillusioned former Hamas men, accuse Hamas of being too lax in its enforcement of Sharia law.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/gaza-salafi-group-claims-responsibility-for-thursday-rocket-attack/

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