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azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 07:12 PM Jun 2015

British National Students Union Votes 19-4 for BDS

The British National Union of Students voted to boycott Israeli companies and align with the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement.

In a 19-4 vote with one abstention, the confederation of 600 student unions across the United Kingdom passed the pro-BDS proposal on Tuesday at a meeting of its National Executive Council.

The motion “condemns Israeli military presence in the West Bank and Gaza,” according to the Jewish Chronicle, and calls on students to “co-ordinate a nationwide student day of action to commemorate UN Palestine Solidarity Day” on Nov. 29.

Titled Solidarity with Palestine: Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions, the motion was proposed by the School of Oriental and African Studies students union in London.

http://forward.com/news/breaking-news/309324/british-national-students-union-votes-19-4-for-bds/

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British National Students Union Votes 19-4 for BDS (Original Post) azurnoir Jun 2015 OP
... shenmue Jun 2015 #1
Awwww. Poor Shenmue Scootaloo Jun 2015 #2
What do you mean by that? King_David Jun 2015 #3
he seems to have an upset tummy Scootaloo Jun 2015 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author King_David Jun 2015 #5
Headline and story are not accurate oberliner Jun 2015 #6
Thanks according to ToI that vote count is correct, any other inaccuracies to point out? azurnoir Jun 2015 #9
Huh? oberliner Jun 2015 #11
That's what I just said-ToI confirmed 19-14, were there any other inaccuracies? azurnoir Jun 2015 #13
I don't know what Toi means oberliner Jun 2015 #15
Times of Israel confirmed the number azurnoir Jun 2015 #16
OK oberliner Jun 2015 #17
Fortunately, it's a boycott of the settlements and the occupation, not, Israel, so I'm all for it. Little Tich Jun 2015 #7
No it's not oberliner Jun 2015 #10
I'm not sure if I know what you mean. Little Tich Jun 2015 #14
Check the BDS website oberliner Jun 2015 #18
Ah yes, the tenuos link that proves everything... Little Tich Jun 2015 #19
The global boycott of Israel is growing silently Israeli Jun 2015 #8
Presumably life has gotten better and better for Palestinians as a result oberliner Jun 2015 #12
Are you being deliberately disingenuous? Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2015 #20
Ending occupation won't make life better for Palestinians. See Gaza... shira Jun 2015 #21
" Are you being deliberately disingenuous? " ...... Israeli Jun 2015 #22
I don't think so oberliner Jun 2015 #23
Another route to end occupation is Palestinians accepting 2-states.... shira Jun 2015 #24

Response to Scootaloo (Reply #4)

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
15. I don't know what Toi means
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 07:51 AM
Jun 2015

I am saying that the article you posted has the wrong vote total. Big difference between 19-4 and 19-14.

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
7. Fortunately, it's a boycott of the settlements and the occupation, not, Israel, so I'm all for it.
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 11:31 PM
Jun 2015

If it would have been a boycott of Israel, I would have been firmly against.

Amendment 518a: Solidarity with Palestine: Boycott, Divestment & Sanctions
Source: NUS National Conference 2015 Final proposals CD 10 (http://conference.nusconnect.org.uk/what-s-on/proposals)

(snip page 82, 3rd par)
Conference Resolves:
1. To reaffirm NUS policy on boycotting companies like Veolia and Eden Springs which have been identified as
being complicit in human rights abuses in Israel/Palestine.
2. To affiliate to the BDS movement.
3. To develop legal advice for unions adopting BDS to defend their democratic decisions from attacks.
4. To support local BDS campaigns initiated by students.
5. To lobby institutions and unions to divest from key BDS target companies, including G4S, Veolia and Eden
Springs and Hewlett Packard.
6. To disseminate resources and materials, such as the NUS 4 BDS Handbook, on how to run successful BDS
campaigns on campuses.
7. To call upon the UK government to stop arming Israel.
(end snip)

Read more: http://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/nusdigital/document/documents/14670/CD10_Final%20Proposals%20Motions_v7%20FINAL%20FOR%20PRINT.pdf

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
14. I'm not sure if I know what you mean.
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 07:19 AM
Jun 2015

Are you referring to the settlements as being in Israel, or is there some factual error in the NUS proposal? Is any of the mentioned companies not involved with the settlements and / or the occupation?

Eden Springs - Golan Heights
Veolia - Jerusalem Light Rail
G4S - Palestinian prisoners in Israel, check points etc
Hewlett Packard - Providing computer solutions to the occupation

If these companies stopped their nefarious activities and were operating in Israel they wouldn't be subject to BDS.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
18. Check the BDS website
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 08:06 AM
Jun 2015

The BDS call was endorsed by over 170 Palestinian political parties, organizations, trade unions and movements. The signatories represent the refugees, Palestinians in the OPT, and Palestinian citizens of Israel.

Boycotts target products and companies (Israeli and international) that profit from the violation of Palestinian rights, as well as Israeli sporting, cultural and academic institutions. Anyone can boycott Israeli goods, simply by making sure that they don’t buy produce made in Israel or by Israeli companies. Campaigners and groups call on consumers not to buy Israeli goods and on businesses not to buy or sell them.

http://www.bdsmovement.net/bdsintro

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
19. Ah yes, the tenuos link that proves everything...
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 09:14 AM
Jun 2015

Please explain in what way the NSU is bound by to the form of BDS outlined in your source?

Didn't the NSU outline a fundamentally different form of BDS that doesn't involve Israel?

Israeli

(4,151 posts)
8. The global boycott of Israel is growing silently
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 02:10 AM
Jun 2015

In April 2012, the Co-operative, Britain’s fifth-largest food retailer, declared it would no longer be importing agricultural produce from the territories or any Israeli supplier linked to produce from there. Five years earlier, retail giant Marks & Spencer announced that it was boycotting products from the West Bank, while the Tesco supermarket chain stopped marketing dates from the Jordan Valley.

And they are not alone: Over the past few years, numerous other companies from various countries around the world have announced some kind of a boycott of Israeli goods or companies.

"A consumer boycott of Israeli goods primarily affects agricultural and fresh produce, as it is marked as made in Israel," says Israel Export Institute chairman Ramzi Gabbay. "Most of the Israeli industrial exports are unmarked so even if there is a boycott, it's an unofficial one imposed by an individual business that prefers not to work with Israel."

"Many international companies purchase parts of products, such as electronic components, with the final customer for the device having no idea of their origin anyway. In most instances, businesses do the profitability math before considering politics," Gabbay adds.

The boycott of Israel is not being felt only in the field of agriculture. In the banking sector, for example, Denmark's largest bank, Danske Bank, has announced a boycott of Bank Hapoalim due to the latter's activities in the territories and its involvement in "violations of international law."

Norwegian bank, Nordea, has demanded clarifications from Bank Leumi and Mizrahi-Tefahot Bank on the scope of their activities in the settlements. Dutch pension fund PGGM has also announced that it will stop investing in Israel's major banks because they are "funding construction in the territories."

Israeli real-estate companies and security firms are also taking a blow: In 2009, the Norwegian government's pension fund, AP, sold its shares in Elbit Systems because of the Israeli company's involvement in the construction of the separation barrier. AP also announced that it would not invest in the Housing and Construction Holding Company. And Norway's oil fund, considered the largest in the world with assets of $810 billion, has decided not to invest in Africa Israel and Danya Cebus due to their involvement in construction in the settlements.

And in other areas: The world's largest security company, G4S of Britain, has ended all its contracts with the Israeli government that are linked to security for the settlements; Germany's national rail company, Deutsche Bahn, has pulled out of the Tel Aviv-Jerusalem train line project claiming that the project includes tunnels that pass through the territories; Dutch water company Vitens has severed ties with Israel's Mekorot; and the list goes on.

Continued @
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4664447,00.html

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
12. Presumably life has gotten better and better for Palestinians as a result
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 06:16 AM
Jun 2015

Or is there some other measure of effectiveness?

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
20. Are you being deliberately disingenuous?
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 06:47 AM
Jun 2015

Ending the Israeli occupation will, *if and when it happens*, hopefully make life better for the Palestinians.

And the only possible route to Israel ending the occupation is BDS. At the last Israeli election, parties that support ending it won 18 seats out of 120, 13 of them from Arab votes. Even ZU is firmly committed to keeping large fingers of settlement in the heart of the West Bank that will make a viable Palestinian state impossible.

Your question is like asking someone currently looking for the cure for a disease whether their research has made life better for the sufferers - of course it hasn't, and it won't unless and until it succeeds, but that's not a reason not to look.

And I find it hard to believe that's not obvious, even to you.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
21. Ending occupation won't make life better for Palestinians. See Gaza...
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 07:05 AM
Jun 2015

....after the occupation ended there in 2005, with every last Jew pulled from the territory.

Hamas took over and has used nearly every resource they have to fighting Israel, at the expense of Gazans there who Hamas will use to fight Israel....to the very last Palestinian.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
23. I don't think so
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 11:25 AM
Jun 2015

I think your statement: "And the only possible route to Israel ending the occupation is BDS" is preposterous.

I find it hard to believe that's not obvious, even to you.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
24. Another route to end occupation is Palestinians accepting 2-states....
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 11:45 AM
Jun 2015

....along the lines of the Clinton Initiatives, Geneva Plan, or Olmert offer.

Maybe the PA and Hamas need to be "encouraged" to accept their own state free of occupation. BDS on them for not wanting an end to occupation. They've had multiple chances.



The Zionists here support the plans above to end the occupation. The anti-Zionists here prefer the status quo to an end to occupation. Ironic, isn't it?

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