Quebec LGBTQ leaders to meet Israeli counterparts

[King_David]

MONTREAL — Twelve leaders of Quebec’s LGBTQ community are heading to Israel to take part in the Tel Aviv Pride Parade and events connected to the 40th anniversary of Aguda, the national LGBTQ association.

The June 6-14 trip is the first tailored specifically to the gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgendered and queer community in Canada sponsored by the Centre for Israel and Jewish Affairs (CIJA).

The carefully selected group includes both those prominent in LGBTQ organizations and others with a public profile who belong to that community.

The participants, all younger francophones who have never been to Israel before, were chosen because of their openness to learn about an Israel not often portrayed in the media and bring the message back to Quebec that the country is exceptionally progressive when it comes to LGBTQ rights.


http://www.cjnews.com/?q=node/140256

[King_David]

1. What BDS?

The Gay world is ascending on Israel for Tel Aviv pride .

[guillaumeb]

2. Also from the article:

"Critics’ charge that this is all “pinkwashing,” an attempt by Israel to play up its liberal attitude to homosexuality to detract from the conflict with the Palestinians, but the claim is quickly dismissed by Godoy. “That’s an easy smear… Pinkwashing would only be true if equality for gays and lesbians in Israel was a sham, a marketing ploy,” he said. “The reality is that it is not… It can’t be denied that Israel values democracy and human rights.”

My take:
Yes, M. Godoy, Israel does value democracy and human rights, as long as the human is not Palestinian or Israeli Arab.

[King_David]

3. It's encouraging to see especially out of Quebec

But LGBT have always been friends of minorities and also friends of Jews and Israel.

Too bad they can't visit Palestine whilst there as this would not be safe for an openly Gay group, especially to Gaza it would be risking life.

[guillaumeb]

4. They could visit Palestine,

as long as they do not mind the endless waiting in line to clear the checkpoints.

[King_David]

5. You think as openly Gay men they would get out of Gaza alive?

I don't .

[guillaumeb]

6. There are many countries where openly gay people are not welcomed.

Including areas of the US. And that is a terrible thing.

[King_David]

7. I can't have the discussion with someone minimizing homophobia

by actually comparing the treatment of Gays by Hamas to the treatment of Gays in the USA



Minimizing any kind of homophobia but especially extreme homophobia found in Gaza , IS, Iran, Uganda and Russia is not a progressive trait.

[King_David]

8. Gay Palestinian to court: Deport me and I’ll be killed

Homosexual man from Nablus, living in Tel Aviv, pleads for asylum on the grounds of ‘well-founded fear of persecution’


http://www.timesofisrael.com/gay-palestinian-to-hcj-boot-me-and-theyll-kill-me/

[Little Tich]

9. I have a feeling there is some amount of pinkwashing going on here.

But then again, maybe not. I have no doubt that the 12 québécois LGBTQ leaders can decide for themselves.

Anyway, here's a link to Ga'ava's FB page:
https://www.facebook.com/gaavaorg

[King_David]

10. How will 'pink washing' be 'going on'?

Is that a process?
How will that work?
It can not be like Birthright as there already is a LGBT Birthright.
So what is involved in 'Pinkwashing going on ' ?
How does it work?
How does one do 'Pinkwashing'?
Do you use a Mikva in the 'Pinkwashing' procedure?

[Little Tich]

11. The article seems to display a certain angle, and it mentions the lack of LGBT

rights in other places.

There is a difference between promotion of Israel and pro-Israel propaganda. The former is good and should be encouraged, and the latter should be stopped.

Nothing of what's happening on the LGBT front in Israel has any bearing on Israel's atrocious record on other human rights fronts. The good things are good, and the bad things are bad, and they shouldn't be used to outweigh each other.

[oberliner]

12. "There is a difference between promotion of Israel and pro-Israel propaganda"

Is the difference that one is true and one is made up? If so, this OP would fall into the former category.

[Little Tich]

13. It's actually more about the context.

True facts about Israel's treatment of LGBT people has nothing to do with the I/P conflict.

[King_David]

14. Really ?

For Gay people living in Israel it does . And for other minority's that enjoy full rights in Israel but not in Palestine and Gaza in particular but also the West Bank.

For example If there is ever one state and the zero tolerance for LGBT rights is imported from the Palestinian Territories at it now stands then it has everything to do with the IP conflict.

[Little Tich]

15. I personally think it's wrong to use what's good with Israel to whitewash

some very bad things with Israel. In this case, I would consider it to be pinkwashing.

[King_David]

16. The term "Pinkwashing" was invented to make something very good Israel is doing and progressive

Into something bad... Because it's not acceptable to some people and groups that Israel is very liberal and Progressive on the LGBT front. Especially when you consider the neighborhood where on the question of LGBT rights in Gaza and Palestine it's medieval times.

Hence the term Pinkwashing-- make something very good that Israel is doing into something very bad- because it can't be seen that the Jewish State is good... It's " Pinkwashing ".

[King_David]

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