Settlers steal rich soil from Palestinian lands near Salfit

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

http://www.maannews.com/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=760570

SALFIT (Ma'an) -- Israeli settlers have stolen large amounts of nutrient-rich soil belonging to Palestinians in the Salfit-district village of Kafr ad Dik, witnesses reported Sunday.

Witnesses said that Israeli bulldozers moved huge piles of the fertile soil from Kafr ad Dik into the illegal Israeli settlement of Lishim.

According to researcher Khaled Maali, the red soil was of an extremely high quality.

He said it would now be used in settlers' gardens and also to grow trees in land bordering exclusive settler routes that Israeli military forces have seized from Palestinians as a "buffer zone" for the roads.

Well since the illegal Israeli colonistas have hacke, uprooted or burned down anything Palestinians I guess the last act that they have is to steal the soil.

These crimes against humanity have to end now.

BDS. For a strong and viable Palestinian state.

[shira]

1. More Ma'an News: Settlers unleash Zionist Pigs on Palestinians

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=11647

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

2. It must be terribly hard on you... the truth.

I can tell this since you get dernright shrill and all tunnel vision in your replies.

[King_David]

6. Shira is very passionate about her people's cause as are you about another people's cause

Almost identically so in magnitude.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

7. Picking up the baggage for others again, dave?

Passion doesn't necessarily = intelligence.

[King_David]

9. Clearly

Agreed

[Scootaloo]

16. Her people's cause?

[King_David]

18. I'm sure you know that Zionism is the Jewish National Project

And that Israel is the Jewish State.

Obama promises security for ‘Israel – a Jewish state’

http://www.timesofisrael.com/obama-promises-security-for-israel-a-jewish-state/

[Scootaloo]

26. Well, she's defending violent settlers stealing land in this case

I'm not sure i would call that the "cause" of the Jewish people. In fact i'm not sure I would attribute a singular cause to a whole ethnic group at all.

But it's cute that you try to smear all Jews with your extremism and hers.

[shira]

11. Settler Zionist attack pigs tells u all u need to know about Ma'an.

And also Mondoweiss, as those dumbasses went with the same stupid story.

Nice sources you trust there.

[Scootaloo]

27. Namely that maan is quoting the locals

For someone who believes that Mohammed al-Dura was murdered by his father and that he wasn';t killed at all, all because Nahum Shahaf tells you so, you seem awfully persnikkity.

[Scootaloo]

34. It's not make beleive, shira.

That really was your argument. And Nahum Shahaf really is the source of that argument.

The point is that you are in no position to criticize Maan or mondoweiss, especially not for reporting what locals say.

[azurnoir]

36. make believe? here is a small sample of your postings on al Dura

shira (24,663 posts)
13. The hoax couldn't be more obvious, but note the denial. My favorite staged scene....

The dead come to life!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113441491#post1


shira (24,663 posts)
15. If you can't admit al-Dura was a hoax, no amount of evidence...

...would be sufficient to prove anything to you.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=44199

Promoting the al-Dura myth: Role of Amnesty Int. and HRW

Edited on Tue Jul-29-08 10:06 AM by shira
Promoting the Al Dura Myth: The Role of Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch

The French court’s dismissal of the libel case brought by France 2 TV, in response to evidence that the death of Muhammad al-Dura was staged, has increased the examination of the NGO campaigns that propelled this issue.

The unquestioned repetition of claims by Palestinian “eyewitnesses” without further investigation reflects the standard pattern used by Amnesty International and HRW in condemning Israel for alleged human rights violations.

Human Rights Watch (HRW) published a report that labeled al Dura’s alleged death as “a case of indiscriminate and illegal use of force.” HRW’s lengthy report based on “the accounts of eyewitnesses” simply repeated the claims of the Palestinian cameraman for France 2, without any independent verification.

HRW’s press release (November 21 2000) ostensibly condemned a Palestinian bombing attack on an Israeli school bus, in which a number of teachers and children were killed and injured. But most of this document refers to the “indiscriminate or excessive use of force by the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF),” citing the al Dura allegations, and anonymous witnesses.

more...

http://www.upjf.org/actualitees-upjf/article-14587-145-...


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=124x219688#219690

[Jefferson23]

3. A Settlers Garden..could be a song or a book, Your Soil is My Soil.

Fuckers.

[oberliner]

4. West Bank settlers stealing tons of soil from Palestinian land (From 2012)

Haaretz has learned that the practice of stealing soil in the West Bank is common in dozens of settlements, and the authorities are doing nothing to combat it.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/west-bank-settlers-stealing-tons-of-soil-from-palestinian-land.premium-1.469522

[King_David]

5. Your very passionate about another people's state

More passionate than any Palestinian, that comes through clearly in your posts.

It also seems to be your only and sole passion exclusively ,this other people's cause that's not yours.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

8. You're very passionate about keeping that people down, IMHO.

[King_David]

10. Not really

I just happen to have a horse in the race.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

12. You have an opinion. Others do as well.

Live with it.

[shira]

13. The Jews of Israel also have human rights. Some people forget that. n/t

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

14. Everybody has human rights. Israel doesn't practice it evenly at all.

Some people forget that.

[shira]

19. I think both sides in I/P have human rights. The BDS contingent only believes....

..in human rights for Palestinians, not Israelis.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

21. Well, you're wrong as usual, but what else us new, shira?

Human rights, gasbara style, mandates that Israel has more rights than Palestinians.

Example: Illegal colonization

Example: Illegal Land theft

Example: Indiscriminate detention of minors

Example: Indiscriminate detention of adults

Example: Differing sets of laws for Palestinians vs Israelis

Example: Murder of Palestinians by Israeli settlers

Example: Murder of Palestinians by IDF

Example: Hasbara water carriers pretending that all above doesn't count or are anti-Semitic lies, excuse, excuse, excuse...

[shira]

22. I was wrong. BDS doesn't care about Palestinians either unless Israel can be smeared. n/t

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

23. You are wrong in general, shira.

[shira]

24. Provide some evidence BDS gives a crap about Palestinian kids used as shields & militants.....

....by Hamas.

If you can do that - and everyone here knows you can't - then you can say with confidence I'm wrong.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

25. You see, shira, your shrill little demands mean nothing to me.

Go stomp you feet at somebody else.

BDS.

[Scootaloo]

41. Really? What part of Israel did you move to, Dave?

Congratulations on finally making the leap! I'd send you a nice casserole, but it probably wouldn't be very nice by the time it arrived, you know.

[King_David]

42. I do not live in the Jewish State,

Even if NY or FL are called that.

[Scootaloo]

43. Then maybe you used the wrong metaphor. it happens. n/t

[King_David]

46. I am Jewish

bnai Israel , Am Yisrael.....a horse in the race.


Cos scootaloo actually has no say in this.





And you should send a protest letter to Obama LOL


Dear Mr president, I Scootaloo say Israel is not the Jewish State....and I will stamp my feet and hold my breat,

[Scootaloo]

48. Good for you. So what?

The phrase, "to have a horse in the race" means you have something tangible running on the outcome. You are neither an Israeli nor a Palestinian thus, as Daneel tells you, all you have is an opinion.

Your being Jewish doesn't actually lend credibility to your opinions. it just makes you a Jewish guy who has an opinion, just as Daneel and I are Irish guys with opinions. What lends credibility to an opinion is its basis in facts and the ability with which it can be argued, not the characteristics of the person expressing it.

Especially since, you know, for all we know you could actually be a 60 year-old Samoan scientologist woman. Internet, right?

At any rate. 20% of Israel proper is non-Jewish. When we figure in the areas outside Israel subjected to Israeli rule, the number jumps to over 50%. 47% if you insist on discounting Gaza. Calling it "The Jewish State" is sorta like calling a pear an apple. ith as certain apple-ish qualities, and it certainly isn't a banana, but it's not quite an apple, either.

[King_David]

49. Write a letter to Obama

Tell him Israel is not the Jewish state,

You are not the 1st.

[Scootaloo]

50. I actually have more important things to write the guy about

I can include it as a P.S., if you like?

'Course, diplomacy is usually less about facts than about making nice-nice. It's why we keep insisting Saudi Arabia is an "ally." I mean really.

[King_David]

44. Is this another antiZionist rant of yours,

Israel is not the Jewish State...


Yes your views on Jews and Zionism are well known here in this group.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/113499576#post11

[Scootaloo]

45. Are they? because you display a complete inability to grasp them.

Even so, thanks for the bump. Shit, usually people have to pay for promotion, you seem eager to do it for free.

[Scootaloo]

28. It's very strange that you believe people shouldn't care for people outside their own ethnicity

[King_David]

29. When it's your one and only cause and primary and only

focus and adoption of another people's cause especially because when that happens.... And the other people are Pakestinians .... And their opponents are Jews and in a lot of cases such as David Duke that's the reason.... Yes it's strange.

Especially if one considers themselves the leader of another people and the resins and motivation thereof.

And have no other cause.

[Scootaloo]

30. No, you just can't conceive of people caring about anyone who doesn't share their ethnicity

[King_David]

31. Again with the insults ...

Want to revisit your views on Zionists and Jews and antisemitism you wrote here?


http://www.democraticunderground.com/113499576#post11

Puleeez

[Scootaloo]

32. It's not an insult to point out your clear stance on something Dave

You are attacking other posters for having concern for people, on the basis that they are not the same ethnicity as the people they are concerned for.

[King_David]

35. Nope

I was pointing out someone's primary cause in life and passion against a people by someone who's not even affected by it and does not appear to be motivated by Human Rights ....as this is the one and only focus ... No other...

Similar to the UNHRC....

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

37. You should return that crystal ball, Dave. It ain't working so well for ya.

I was pointing out someone's primary cause in life and passion...

You really are horrible at this.

Perhaps you should go back to your folk stories about rabbits.

[King_David]

38. I do not think so...

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

39. Well, I can understand somebody as young as yourself making that mistake.

Don't worry. You'll, with luck, understand that your perception and reality don't alwasys meet up.

They call it not jumping to conclusions.

[Scootaloo]

40. You lost a comma Dave n/t

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

53. How about the turtle and the hare?

It's a story about an arrogant little rabbit that believes that a turtle has no business being in the race ir something like that.

Spoiler. The rabbit loses while the turtle perseveres.

BDS.

[guillaumeb]

15. I know that the Israeli State is stealing Palestinian land and water,

and has been since the beginning, but I did NOT know they were also literally "stealing the land". Is there nothing that Israel will NOT take rom the Palestinians?

[oberliner]

17. You obviously have not been following this too closely

West Bank settlers 'stealing soil' from Palestinians (Dec 2012)

http://www.maannews.com/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?id=528378

[guillaumeb]

20. I have not been here, DU, that long.

But my point remains.

[King_David]

47. That is where you get your information on Israel? From DU?

[guillaumeb]

54. you have seen my posts, responses, and references in the posts.

[GoneFishin]

52. It is a creative new spin on the old tradition of land theft, isn't it?

[GoneFishin]

51. No. The air still remains, until they find a way to steal that too.