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Related: About this forumHow Sabra hummus conquered America
Source: Times of Israel
A few decades ago, no one really ate the chickpea paste; now its available in supermarkets, airports and NFL stadiums
A couple of decades ago, almost no one in America ate hummus. It was hard to find, the chickpea pastes labeled as hummus were pretty lousy and no one could pronounce the food correctly.
Americans still cant pronounce hummus, but now its available at nearly every supermarket in the country not to mention at airports, NFL stadiums and in large tubs at Costco.
Much of Americas hummus explosion can be traced to one company, Sabra, which was in the news last week after an outbreak of listeria in Sabra hummus prompted a major recall. Its rival Tribe has also gotten a fair amount of attention.
Read more: http://www.timesofisrael.com/how-sabra-hummus-conquered-america/
roody
(10,849 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)'Cause seriously, sabra is gross. it's like the shit no one in Israel will eat, so they ship it here. You know, like Australia does with Fosters.
I don't get why anyone would pay for premade hummus, anyway. It's not exactly complicated to make.. .though I guess if you can't get decent tahini...
Little Tich
(6,171 posts)live. My thought with the OP is that I like Hummus a lot, and that a successful Israeli product could be interesting. Now Im told that its gross and full of GMO.
I dont really know how to backtrack out of this. I thought Israeli hummus would be yummy...
And yeah, I almost never see Fosters anywhere, its always exported.
Israeli
(4,151 posts)....if it is freshly made .
Scoot and roody are right ....Sabra hummus is awful .
If you ever visit let me know ...I will tell you where to go to get the best .
King_David
(14,851 posts)Half the "experts" in this group have never been.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Sabra is wallpaper paste.
Mosby
(16,317 posts)Guess it depends what your used to.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)...But I do love me some cornflake-crusted chicken tenders
King_David
(14,851 posts)Israeli
(4,151 posts)...nobody on here including myself is an " expert " on the IP conflict ....unless you consider your few trips to the Tel Aviv Gay Pride Parade makes you an expert .
King_David
(14,851 posts)Are you not aware of the importance of Gay Pride anywhere in the world and its significance?
Do you realize that Israel is the only place in the middle east that has a Gay Pride except for maybe Turkey and that's tenuous?
Think on that before belittling such an important event and statement such as gay pride.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)She's saying that you are a I/P novice, and going to a few gay pride events in Te Aviv doesn't make you an expert.
It might make you more experienced with Tel Aviv gay pride parades, that's about it.
King_David
(14,851 posts)and become more "involved " in a keyboard activist way than anyone from our actual 2 groups in our conflict, maybe you don't realize the significance of Gay Pride anywhere in the world?
It's very significant that Israel is the only territory in the area that has a Gay pride.
It's also shameful that the 2 seperate states of Palestine ( your emotionally adopted people's land you imagine you "lead" on your keyboard ) and the cities of Ramallah and Gaza do not .
Belittling Gay pride is unbecoming on a Democratic Party supporting website and best left to the extremist right wing sites.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)LGBTQ issues. Nobody belittled Gay Pride, and I would have to add that neither Israeli or I are using it in a derogatory way; no matter how some want to paint it as such.
Shame, dave, shame.
King_David
(14,851 posts)Posts are clear for all to read.
Gay pride clearly is needed in the hate filled homophobic gay hating bigoted 2 territories of Palestine .
If only they would emulate Jewish tolerance displayed in Israel.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)King_David
(14,851 posts)Then dismissive of Gay rights.
I guess had you adopted the Gay people's cause it wouldn't be so easily dismissed.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)farcical analysis of who is and who isn't pro LGBTQ doesn't change the fact that regardless of how gay friendly Israel is it is definitely anti Palestinian.
King_David
(14,851 posts)Tell us again.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)If so, you've helped to fuel Israels military control over Palestinians (per Alex Kane).
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)I thought you were. Apologies.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)But then the people who are so outraged are generally fucking absurd in other respects too, so...
My point is, I'm an american. My tax money goes towards abusing Palestinians no matter my feelings on it. I can avoid Sabra because it's gross, or because it's Israeli, and the fact is money is still leaving my pocket, being turned into a bullets and bombs, and then used to destroy Palestine.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)So you don't actively boycott all things Israeli but you don't have any problems with the BDS movement, generally speaking. Would that be fair to say?
Yes, our tax money is spent on weapons that do quite a lot of killing of various people, Palestinians among them.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)That is cool that you remembered that exchange.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Which means that my brain probably looks an awful lot like my mother's temporary internet files folder.
King_David
(14,851 posts)Israeli made goods, as do the vast majority of Americans.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)I buy chickpeas and garlic grown in California. I buy Tahini made in new Jersey,, from sesame grown in morocco. and olive oil from either California or Italy (depends on what's on sale ) And then I toss it in a cuisinart from wherever Hamilton Beach makes their gadgets. I garnish with lemons from Mexico and parsley from my backyard.
The result is vastly better than that mass-market glop.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Best hummus ever.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Do you guys all get together for an annual boffer match and I'm missing out?
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)And I believe the Highland Games are held at Loon Mountain.
Iris
(15,657 posts)That was pretty shitty and elitist. The story is like talking to a college freshman who mocks people for not knowing some obscure band.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)...where do they pronounce it like that ?????
Here is how we pronounce hummus........
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=16&v=xpiUwfLj81w
oberliner
(58,724 posts)It's a whole different world over here in the USA.
Israeli
(4,151 posts)pronounce all our vowels wrong , how you say mazal tov for instance is completely different from the way we say it.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Personally, I love the sound of Israeli-accented English.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Israeli
(4,151 posts)Runningdawg
(4,517 posts)I skipped lunch and now I am starving! I'm Native American, born and raised on the rez but I did live in NYC for a few years. I made darn sure I learned how to cook from scratch all the things I wouldn't have access to once I returned.
Ever had hummus on fry bread? LOL yummy!
Israeli
(4,151 posts)" fry bread " is ....I eat mine with pita bread.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)It's a fast-leavened flatbread that is cooked by frying it in fat. Actually not too different from a donut, only the bread itself isn't sweet and usually isn't leavened with yeast.
http://img.sndimg.com/food/image/upload/w_614,h_461,c_fit/v1/img/recipes/36/70/36/picaymZ7b.jpg
Recipe i was introduced to was wheat flour, a little sugar and salt, baking powder, and water, kneaded until a dough. Formed into balls, flattened by hand, and fried in rendered moose fat (Just... go with shortening or vegetable oil.) This was then topped with nagoonberry preserves for breakfast, with shredded cabbage and baked slmon and sweet chili sauce for lunch, or used as a side bread for dinner.
Seriously they served this as a major food group at the school I went to. That and lumpia (basically a deep-fried Filipino spring roll.) same school where I got my first taste of seal meat.
Don't try the seal.
Israeli
(4,151 posts)I'm not a great cook but I will give it a try ....moose fat I have never heard of either ...so that and seal are most definitely out .
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)I learned this stuff in Alaska while living subsistence. It's certainly an experience
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)what imitation sour cream dips are to the real thing-they taste sort of artificial and really mass produced
oberliner
(58,724 posts)No BDS?
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)I'm pretty sure it doesn't ship from Israel
King_David
(14,851 posts)As do the vast majority of Americans in every day life.
Even picking up a prescription every day if Generic , chances are its Tevah.
Well done ...
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)and Teva (there's no h) has been creating a monopoly on the generic drug trade with sky rocketing prices as result not to mention several recalls of their products
oberliner
(58,724 posts)2. Sabra Hummus
Sabra is another Israeli company that seems to be in every Americans refrigerator and brand-name supermarket. It may taste good to dip chips and vegetables in, but it also boosts the Israeli military while marketing hummus as exclusively Israeli.
http://www.alternet.org/world/companies-and-consumer-products-boosting-israels-brutal-occupation
Alex Kane has spoken.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)not a whole lot of choice up there. At home I usually buy this stuff, it's local and very good
http://holylandbrand.com/
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Or is that not your thing?
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)Israeli
(4,151 posts)....not that it matters much anymore .
There is no difference between products produced across the Green Line and those produced in Israel proper dont you know ???
.........
Lapid: Call for labeling of West Bank goods a 'stain on the EU'
Ex-finance minister says there is no difference between goods produced inside or outside the Green Line. Lieberman sarcastically suggests EU put yellow stars on settlement products.
By Jonathan Lis and JTA
There is no difference between products produced across the Green Line and those produced in Israel proper, Yesh Atid leader Yair Lapid said on Thursday evening in a telephone conversation with the European Union's foreign affairs chief Federica Mogherini.
Lapid, a former finance minister, called Mogherini to protest at a letter from 16 EU foreign ministers demanding the clear labeling of goods produced in Israeli settlements in the West Bank.
The demand of the foreign ministers was "effectively a call for the de facto boycott of Israel," Lapid told Mogherini. He added that it was an "irresponsible" move that could potentially "bring disaster to the Israeli economy."
Lapid went on to describe the letter as a "stain on the EU" and said that Israel would do everything possible to prevent the implementation of "this dangerous process."
Meanwhile, Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman sarcastically suggested stamping settlement goods with yellow stars.
Lieberman made the remarks in an interview with Israel Radio about the EU foreign ministers' letters.
I have a suggestion for them on labeling, Lieberman said in the interview, conducted one day after Israels national Holocaust Remembrance Day. They can
label all products from Judea, Samaria and the Golan Heights with a yellow star.
"I think that is extremely fitting to the cynical and hypocritical position expressed in this letter.
Source: http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.652347
Little Tich
(6,171 posts)the day after Holocaust Remembrance day.
And Im not regretting putting up this thread anymore. The Hummus war is interesting.
I make my own sometimes, but I always end up with literally a bucketfull, and thats a little bit too much.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Little Tich
(6,171 posts)King_David
(14,851 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)In October, 2010, Philly BDS launched a consumer boycott campaign against Sabra Hummus and Tribe Hummus. Creating a Lady Gaga youtube video that went viral within days, and coining the slogan, No Justice, No (Chick) Peas, the appeal of the campaign was immediate, particularly on college campuses. Both Princeton and De Paul University organized similar campaigns, with De Paul having some initial success. Since then, there have been various hummus campaigns in South Florida, San Francisco, Australia, and Chicago. There is currently a hummus campaign in Boston that is gathering momentum. On the home front, Philly BDS remains strong, with support from Temple University, University of Pennsylvania, and several local faith-based communities who focus on not buying or serving Sabra and Tribe.
The consumer boycott against Sabra Hummus and Tribe Hummus supports the full BDS Call which requires that companies and institutions pay a price for their complicity in any and all policies that violate international law and the basic human rights of Palestinians, not just those that profit from the occupation. Strauss, a prominent Israeli corporation, like most Israeli companies, supports the Israeli Defense Force. The Golani and Givati Brigades receive support from Strauss under its Adopt a Warrior Program; these brigades have well documented incidents of human rights abuses against Palestinians. Think Operation Cast Lead. Or the t-shirt with the pregnant Muslim woman in the crosshair of the rifle that reads, One shot, two kills. Think racism. The IDF implements Israels policies of discrimination against Palestinians at checkpoints, through home demolitions, curfews, detentions, targeted assassinations, control over freedom of movement. Corporate complicity is exactly the point of the boycott of best-seller Sabra, the pride of Strauss.
http://mondoweiss.net/2013/02/settlement-products-hummus#sthash.3dl4hjVU.dpuf
King_David
(14,851 posts)louis-t
(23,295 posts)Shrike47
(6,913 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)or Tribe. I got some at the market that is from "The Hummus Co.". It's spinach and artichoke.
It is ROCKING on pita bread.
Still, I'd love to try some real, homemade authentic hummus. This is freaking delicious, though, and it's better than no hummus at all!