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Eugene

(61,900 posts)
Sun Sep 3, 2023, 08:39 AM Sep 2023

Biden administration wants to know if Saudi Arabia used American weapons to kill 'hundreds' of migra

Also: Germany says it ended training of Saudi border forces after abuses reported (The Guardian)

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Source: Insider

The Biden administration wants to know if Saudi Arabia used American weapons to kill 'hundreds' of migrants

Charles R. Davis
Sat, September 2, 2023 at 12:18 PM EDT·2 min read

• The United States is investigating a report that Saudi Arabia killed "hundreds" of migrants.
• Human Rights Watch said border guards in Saudi Arabia killed scores of migrants in Yemen.
• The Biden administration is investigating whether US weapons were used in the reported attacks.

The Biden administration is demanding answers following a report that Saudi authorities may have killed hundreds of migrants in Yemen, possibly with arms provided by the United States, according to The Washington Post.

Last month, Human Rights Watch issued a report alleging that, between March 2022 and June 2023, Saudi border guards killed "at least hundreds" of Ethiopian migrants who were trying to cross into the country from neighboring Yemen. The attacks included the use of explosive weapons and execution-style killings of people who had just been released from detention in Saudi Arabia itself, the group charged.

Bill Frelick, director of HRW's refugee and migrant rights division, said he was "shocked and horrified" by the allegations, which he described as among the worst he's seen in more than 30 years.

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Read more: https://news.yahoo.com/biden-administration-wants-know-saudi-161846794.html

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Source: The Guardian

Germany says it ended training of Saudi border forces after abuses reported

Statement comes amid concern about allegations Saudi forces have killed hundreds of migrants

Kate Connolly in Berlin and Peter Beaumont
Fri 1 Sep 2023 15.56 BST
Last modified on Fri 1 Sep 2023 17.05 BST

Germany ended a training programme for Saudi border forces, who have been implicated in the mass killing of migrants at the country’s border with Yemen, after it was alerted to reports of “possible massive human rights violations”, the German interior ministry has said.

In a statement to the Guardian, the ministry said training undertaken by the federal police service for the Saudi border force had been “discontinued after reports of possible massive human rights violations became known and, as a precaution, are no longer included in the current training programme [for Saudi security forces]”.

The statement added: “At no point did any instruction or training by the federal police of the Saudi Arabian border guard take place in the border area between Saudi Arabia and Yemen.”

The German statement follows mounting international concern over allegations by UN experts and human rights groups that Saudi border forces have killed hundreds of people-trafficked migrants trying to cross the border in the last three years, claims Saudi Arabia has denied.

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Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/01/germany-ended-training-saudi-border-forces-reported-abuses

Alternate non-walled link: https://archive.li/ndsJR

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Biden administration wants to know if Saudi Arabia used American weapons to kill 'hundreds' of migra (Original Post) Eugene Sep 2023 OP
American weapons are being used in hundreds of countries, Mexico is swamped with American Guns. Alexander Of Assyria Sep 2023 #1
This Ferrets are Cool Sep 2023 #2
So you support the continued sale of weopons to Mr bone saw? getagrip_already Sep 2023 #3
Wrong thread? Alexander Of Assyria Sep 2023 #5
Saudi arabia.. mbs.... reporter chopped with s bone saw at his direction..... getagrip_already Sep 2023 #7
Admission isn't free... 2naSalit Sep 2023 #4
If verified, the massacre is so obvious and so blatant that the US can't keep looking the other way. Eugene Sep 2023 #6
 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
1. American weapons are being used in hundreds of countries, Mexico is swamped with American Guns.
Sun Sep 3, 2023, 08:51 AM
Sep 2023

Ukraine has Yankee cluster munitions!

Every military ally buys Made in America by the billions of dollars…and there are a lot of allies, everywhere! A lot!

The dead don’t care if the weapon was made in America or the moon, and no weapon is a restricted weapon only for good guys to use goodly!

Why all the concern now??…it’s time America do something about these Nazi King dictators…here is an opportunistic event to start the process of sending the Princes of Sand and Oil and Miurder into the evil empire category they so richly deserve….pun intended!

But can The West afford to lose such a wealthy and generous cash loaded friend? Where would they spend launder all their oil money then? Only so many football teams and golf leagues to go around!

Ask Jared! Or costumers of that sweet sweet oil!

…..
And of course the dictators use American weapons, do they buy any other in exchange for military bases? That would be a violation…buy from us only, it’s the best stuff anyway! Trillion a year…year after year, of course it’s the best!

When America helped the dictators with intelligence and aerial refuelling in the Yemen civil war that killed tens of thousands of civilians it wasn’t any other nations weapons they used to commit war crimes.

American weapon production and sales is all cosplay, we the audience with free admission into whatever information the weapons producers and the friendly mass buying of weapons Pentagon, and the suppliant media, all want, on their stage.

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
3. So you support the continued sale of weopons to Mr bone saw?
Sun Sep 3, 2023, 09:48 AM
Sep 2023

Which is what is going to happen if no justification is found to stop it.

And don't drag ukraine into this. They were attacked by a criminal nation intent on genocide. Cluster munitions are necessary and valid in that war, and have been used by russia against civilian targets since day 1. So there are a lot of fallacies above not worth wading into...

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
7. Saudi arabia.. mbs.... reporter chopped with s bone saw at his direction.....
Sun Sep 3, 2023, 06:43 PM
Sep 2023

Reference to ukraine was from the cluster bomb comment.

Everything relates to the thread just above mine.

Eugene

(61,900 posts)
6. If verified, the massacre is so obvious and so blatant that the US can't keep looking the other way.
Sun Sep 3, 2023, 03:39 PM
Sep 2023

An ally's excesses can reach the point where the US government can't cover for them without discrediting itself. A massacre of unarmed refugees crosses a line, and if the pro-human-rights US can be attached to a blatant crime against humanity, everybody has a problem.

With friends like Mohammed bin Salman, the US has no lack of adversaries.

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