Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 01:18 PM Nov 2015

On Ukraine’s frontlines, U.S.-supplied equipment is falling apart

Ms Farkas sticks to her guns.

---

When asked about the administration’s goals, a spokesperson for the National Security Council declined to comment on the record. The current aid policy towards Ukraine is representative of the Obama administration’s desire to “do enough militarily to ensure the Ukrainians can defend their territory,” said Evelyn N. Farkas, the former deputy assistant secretary of defense for Russia/Ukraine/Eurasia. But she said that more could be done to deter future attacks.

“Right now, considering the stakes, our resources are out of whack,” Farkas said.

She added that a diplomatic solution to the crisis can be reached through stronger engagement—namely in the form of sending weapons to Ukraine.

The White House, though, has resisted sending lethal aid with a belief that sending the weapons to Ukrainian troops would only escalate the conflict.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2015/11/30/on-ukraines-frontlines-u-s-supplied-equipment-is-falling-apart/
4 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
On Ukraine’s frontlines, U.S.-supplied equipment is falling apart (Original Post) bemildred Nov 2015 OP
..! One wonders..... KoKo Nov 2015 #1
It is all about appearances, see? bemildred Nov 2015 #2
....! Appearances....for sure.. KoKo Nov 2015 #3
!....n/t KoKo Dec 2015 #4

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
1. ..! One wonders.....
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 04:23 PM
Nov 2015

Yes....Farkas seems to still be the "go to person" for news reports on Ukraine even though she has resigned her former position.

About the article: there's something that could almost strike one as sick comedy about our sending our used and out-of-date heavy equipment to Ukraine. It wasn't that long ago that we were trying to find something to do with our used military equipment (no longer needed) in Afghanistan as we were supposedly withdrawing troops from there. I remember posts here in "FA" about the logistics and costs of getting them out of the country, where to store them, and how much would be scrapped.

I guess they solved the problem with the Ukraine situation.

--------------
From the article:


In addition to the dated vehicles already sent, another 100 Humvees of similar vintage have been authorized to be offered for shipment to Ukraine as part of the military’s standard program for transferring extra equipment “as is” to foreign countries.

The program sends “the stuff that’s sitting around somewhere that no service can use,” said an official at the Pentagon who spoke on condition of anonymity to speak frankly about the equipment. “In some cases Humvees might be provided … for spare parts. They’re not good enough to drive, but you can tear them apart and cannibalize [them].”

In the case of the Humvees in Ukraine, Lt. Col. Andrei, the operations chief of the unit that received the vehicles, said they were supposed to be sent in working order — not stripped for parts.The cost to purchase a Humvee tire in Ukraine is roughly $1,000, so instead the unit bought a cheap used SUV for a little more than what it would take to replace two Humvee tires.


“Why would I pay to keep replacing tires when I could just buy a car?” asked Andrei, who requested his last name be withheld to protect his family living in Russian-occupied territory.

U.S. officials attributed the presence of rundown U.S. defense equipment on Ukraine’s front lines to the need to get equipment to Ukraine quickly at the start of the war.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
2. It is all about appearances, see?
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 04:34 PM
Nov 2015

It's about the appearance of support, not actual support. I am tempted to go on about Rove's "reality based community" speech again. But "Bullshit will only take you so far" is more succinct.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
3. ....! Appearances....for sure..
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 09:17 PM
Nov 2015

I hear, Ya.. Still...I was glad to see the article exposing the latest.

At this point the corruption is so vast that to see it exposed and find humor in it is probably a healthy thing for some of us more serious folks.

I remember Rove's "We Make the Reality" statement. Not exact quote.. I'd have to look it up ....but, I remember very well what he was declaring..even if, off the top of my head, I didn't have time to look up exact quote. And, his influence has, still to this day, seemed to turn out pretty successfully in MSM Influence, except for some glitches here and there. His influence may not last much longer, though. At least that's my hope

Latest Discussions»Issue Forums»Foreign Affairs»On Ukraine’s frontlines, ...