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dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 12:11 PM Sep 2015

Where did ISIS come from? How was it able to gain land, arms and money so quickly? See this:


Unmasking ISIS


Part 1 shows that the U.S. – through bad policies and stupid choices – is largely responsible for the rise of ISIS.

Part 2 reveals the strange history of the leaders of ISIS … Including one who never really existed, and another who – if you read mainstream media drivel –
was killed … then arrested … and then killed again.

Part 3 delves into the little-known, secret history of Iraq and Syria … and discusses the real motivations behind our current policies towards those countries.

And Part 4 reveals the shocking truth about who is really supporting ISIS.


http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/09/unmasking-isis.html

This is a lengthy post, , and has lots of citations and maps and etc. Very much worth the read.
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Where did ISIS come from? How was it able to gain land, arms and money so quickly? See this: (Original Post) dixiegrrrrl Sep 2015 OP
Damn, what a detailed documented piece !!! SamKnause Sep 2015 #1
Thanks for posting this. procon Sep 2015 #2
One item covers how USA targeted Syria as gar back as 1991. dixiegrrrrl Sep 2015 #3
Syria was always on the invasion list Hydra Sep 2015 #4
K&R jamzrockz Sep 2015 #5
The map from globalresearch is revealing..... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #6
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2015 #19
Funny how the Saudi Army is considered useless.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #20
to read later. thanks for posting snagglepuss Sep 2015 #7
A fine synopsis... IthinkThereforeIAM Sep 2015 #8
Thank you! lib87 Sep 2015 #9
And the power-mad psychopaths... gregcrawford Sep 2015 #10
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2015 #18
This should be required reading for every American... at least every DUer. cpompilo Sep 2015 #11
A lot of this info was available over the years, esp. post Iraq nvasion dixiegrrrrl Sep 2015 #12
Indeed. For the informed there was not much new but it is good to read this comprehensive history cpompilo Sep 2015 #13
Yep, I remember most of that too. bemildred Sep 2015 #16
VERY long article Hydra Sep 2015 #14
Taking a long long view of history, it was ever thus. dixiegrrrrl Sep 2015 #15
You're right, so we're going to have to change something fundamental in our species Hydra Sep 2015 #17

SamKnause

(13,107 posts)
1. Damn, what a detailed documented piece !!!
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 12:31 PM
Sep 2015

Thanks for posting.

It took quite a while just to scan through.

I bookmarked it to read, check out the links, and watch all the videos later.

procon

(15,805 posts)
2. Thanks for posting this.
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 12:52 PM
Sep 2015

I thought I knew most of the underhanded skullduggery going on behind the scenes in America's foreign policy, but this is a real eye-opener. Next time one of my dear right wing relatives start spouting off about "Those dang Islamofascists hate us for our freedoms...", I'll be better armed.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
3. One item covers how USA targeted Syria as gar back as 1991.
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 12:59 PM
Sep 2015

and how the PNAC players were involved that far back.

I have to admit, I will be reading this article several times over. LOTS of info and citations.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
4. Syria was always on the invasion list
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 01:26 PM
Sep 2015

I remember when they had a more cooperative gov't in place offering to help us with various things, and the Bush Admin was busy telling them that they were part of the "Axis of Evil&quot TM). I would have called it a more moderate gov't, but then I found out how we were farming out rendition subjects to them to torture for us, so nothing is ever as clear cut as it seems.

 

jamzrockz

(1,333 posts)
5. K&R
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 02:28 PM
Sep 2015

Gonna bookmark and read later.I think its quite easy to see that since ISIS is doing the heavy load of defeating Assad, if they didn't create it, they definitely don't mind its existence.

Regime change business after the Iraq debacle can only be done via proxies and ISIS just like the mujaheddin in Afghanistan is the perfect vehicle for it.

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Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
20. Funny how the Saudi Army is considered useless....
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 02:12 PM
Sep 2015

They've spent all of their time marching in formation.

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,076 posts)
8. A fine synopsis...
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 03:05 PM
Sep 2015

... or the recent gulf wars in a nutshell. Reading over it, I recall all those news and intelligence tidbits I have come across over the past 17 years.

Like many of us said, it is, "Oil for Israel". Israel had been upset ever since the oil pipeline to Haifa was shut down.

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
10. And the power-mad psychopaths...
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 03:12 PM
Sep 2015

... that planted the seeds of this monumental cluster-fuck keep piling one lie on top of another in a futile effort to bury the truth. Give it up, boys and girls; you're done. Do not subject the decent people of this country to one more nanosecond of Dickhead Cheney trying to rewrite history. Admit you were wrong, say you're sorry even if you don't mean it, and retire to spend more time with your families while you await your indictments.

It is LONG past time for a tectonic reevaluation of our foreign policies, and our national obsession with dominating the planet. Let's start by dissolving the CIA. That pack of hyenas has done more to damage America's standing in the world than any other government agency. But first, make them apologize publicly to all the countries whose democratically elected governments they overthrew and replaced with dictators. One of the first was Iran in 1953. Let's start there.

And any warmongers in Congress have to be front and center in the first wave of any future invasions. Maybe when they get their hair parted by a slug from an AK-47 they'll think twice about their bloodlust. Especially when it's THEIR blood soaking into the sand.

Response to gregcrawford (Reply #10)

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
12. A lot of this info was available over the years, esp. post Iraq nvasion
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 05:30 PM
Sep 2015

I was rather shocked back then at how many members here shouted down any possibility of nefarious motives for our invasion...facts be damned.
I am now pleased to see that since around 2008, people are looking at events much differently.

cpompilo

(323 posts)
13. Indeed. For the informed there was not much new but it is good to read this comprehensive history
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 08:54 PM
Sep 2015

all in one place.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
16. Yep, I remember most of that too.
Sun Sep 13, 2015, 01:01 PM
Sep 2015

You can tell when they spin up the Mighty Wurlitzer and try to demonize their critics that they are trying to rig the game again, defending their past mistakes and working mightily to make new ones.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
14. VERY long article
Sun Sep 13, 2015, 10:22 AM
Sep 2015

But an amazing one- as much as I knew before, this scares me a lot. How are we supposed to stop this 1984ish behavior, where 3 superpowers are constantly at war both with each other and their own people??

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
15. Taking a long long view of history, it was ever thus.
Sun Sep 13, 2015, 10:52 AM
Sep 2015

I fear that only lobotomies can have any effect.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
17. You're right, so we're going to have to change something fundamental in our species
Sun Sep 13, 2015, 01:55 PM
Sep 2015

If we want a world without it.

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