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unhappycamper

(60,364 posts)
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 07:00 AM Jun 2015

America's drone policy is all exceptions and no rules

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/20/americas-drone-policy-all-exceptions-no-rules-yemen



The drone strikes in Yemen are a reminder that the ‘rules’ are virtually meaningless. That sets a terrifying precedent for the next president

America's drone policy is all exceptions and no rules
Trevor Timm
Saturday 20 June 2015 07.00 EDT

The Obama administration is again allowing the CIA to use drone strikes to secretly kill people that the spy agency does not know the identities of in multiple countries - despite repeated statements to the contrary.

That’s what we learned this week, when Nasir ­al-Wuhayshi, an alleged leader of al-Qaida, died in a strike in Yemen. While this time the CIA seems to have guessed right, apparently the drone operators didn’t even know at the time who they were aiming at - only that they thought the target was possibly a terrorist hideout. It’s what’s known as a “signature” strike, where the CIA is not clear who its drone strikes are killing, only that the targets seem like they are terrorists from the sky.

Signature strikes has led to scores of civilians being killed over the past decade, including two completely innocent hostages less than two months ago. It’s a way of killing that’s been roundly condemned by human rights organizations and that some members of Congress have tried to outlaw. The incredible dangers behind such a policy are obvious. Here’s how the New York Times described it when the White House’s ‘kill list’ was first revealed in 2012:
The joke was that when the CIA sees “three guys doing jumping jacks,” the agency thinks it is a terrorist training camp, said one senior official. Men loading a truck with fertilizer could be bombmakers – but they might also be farmers, skeptics argued.


It was so controversial that, in 2013, President Obama announced new “rules” for drone strikes that tightened requirements for when the CIA or any government agency could attempt to kill someone and were, in theory, meant to be the end of signature strikes. One of the rules was that a drone target had to be an “imminent threat” to the US and there had to be a near certainty that civilians would not be killed. (One would assume it’s close to impossible to call someone an “imminent threat” when you don’t even know who that person is.)
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America's drone policy is all exceptions and no rules (Original Post) unhappycamper Jun 2015 OP
So very sad, SamKnause Jun 2015 #1

SamKnause

(13,106 posts)
1. So very sad,
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 07:22 AM
Jun 2015

so very disappointing.

So very wrong.

Our policies are putting us in greater danger.

We are creating more enemies.

We are killing innocents all over the globe and at home.

Our tax dollars our being squandered with wild abandonment.

Our country is crumbling.

Why is this insanity allowed to continue ???

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