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Eugene

(61,949 posts)
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 06:15 PM Jun 2015

Al-Qaida ‘cut off and ripped apart by Isis’

Source: The Guardian

Al-Qaida ‘cut off and ripped apart by Isis’

Abu Qatada and Abu Muhammad al-Maqdisi say terror group’s leader is isolated
from commanders, while insiders say group has been drained of Middle East
recruits


Spencer Ackerman, Shiv Malik, Ali Younes and Mustafa Khalili
Wednesday 10 June 2015 22.30 BST

Two of al-Qaida’s most important spiritual leaders have told the Guardian that the terror group is no longer a functioning organisation after being ripped apart by Isis. In a wide-ranging interview, Abu Qatada, a Jordanian preacher who was based in London before being deported in 2013, and Abu Muhammad al-Maqdisi, regarded as the most influential jihadi scholar alive, say the al-Qaida leader, Ayman al-Zawahiri, is cut off from his commanders and keeping the group afloat through little more than appeals to loyalty.

Senior insiders in Jordan add that al-Qaida around the Middle East has been drained of recruits and money after losing territory and prestige to its former subordinate division. The ongoing war between al-Qaida and Isis has left the US struggling to catch up with the tectonic shifts within the global jihadi movement, intelligence insiders told the Guardian.

Maqdisi, who Zawahiri counts as a close friend, is frank about the 63-year-old Egyptian’s situation. “He operates solely based on the allegiance. There is no organisational structure. There is only communication channels and loyalty,” Maqdisi said.

Qatada, who was born Omar Mahmoud Othman and has been described by the British government as a “truly dangerous individual”, also says Zawahiri is “isolated” and admits that Isis have been winning the propaganda and ground war against al-Qaida.

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Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/10/isis-onslaught-has-broken-al-qaida-its-spiritual-leaders-admit
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Al-Qaida ‘cut off and ripped apart by Isis’ (Original Post) Eugene Jun 2015 OP
I thought their goals were pretty much the same. xfundy Jun 2015 #1
So let the great War on Terror be won by ISIS... TreasonousBastard Jun 2015 #2
Yes...but what we caused there has Humanitarian Repercussions.. KoKo Jun 2015 #3
Of course not-- but what are the choices? TreasonousBastard Jun 2015 #4
Curtail and work to disband our Mighty, Profit Oriented MIC...Here: KoKo Jun 2015 #5

xfundy

(5,105 posts)
1. I thought their goals were pretty much the same.
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 06:23 PM
Jun 2015

Apparently the old quest for power and 'authority' showed up. Or is it a schism between sects, like baptists hating catholics, etc?

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
3. Yes...but what we caused there has Humanitarian Repercussions..
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 07:36 PM
Jun 2015

Could you walk away from that since you and I paid for the Death, Detruction, Dislocation, Loss of Familiy, Friends, Children, businesses, jobs and right to earn a living and being forced to flee to Interment/Refugee Camps where the only recourse is to flee and take chance of death over the seas in boats run by "Privateers" which could sink or blowup and if you do survive that journey you end up in ANOTHER INTERNMENT/REFUGEE CAMP with terrible living conditions and you are out of pocket money to "Buy or Bribe" to get better and ....there is NO WHERE ELSE TO
GO?

Could you continue to support this with money out of your pocket?

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
5. Curtail and work to disband our Mighty, Profit Oriented MIC...Here:
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 07:59 PM
Jun 2015

This is very weak...but, it is a start...posted over at DU "Foreign Affairs Group." But, here is link to full article:"

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/2015-06-08/principles-progressive-foreign-policy

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