UK homes could be heated by hydrogen under plan to tackle global warming

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Telegraph.co.uk | Emily Gosden, Energy Editor
9 April 2016

UK households could start heating their homes and cooking using ‘green’ hydrogen gas within a decade, under a radical new plan to tackle climate change by phasing out the use of natural gas.



The entire gas network for the city of Leeds, including all domestic gas boilers and cookers, would be converted to run on clean-burning hydrogen under the proposed world-first project.

The plans to make Leeds a “hydrogen city” would cost an estimated £2 billion, according to Northern Gas Networks (NGN), which is responsible for distributing gas across northern England and has received funding from energy regulator Ofgem to develop the idea.


The range of heat appliances in homes in 2050 necessary to achieve an 80 per cent reduction in CO2 emissions. Source: (PDF) https://www.bartlett.ucl.ac.uk/energy/research/themes/energy-systems/hydrogen/dodds-demoullin-2013-gas-network-conversion

It hopes Leeds could be converted by 2025-30 and that the model could then be replicated in other major cities across the UK...snip

...Although this would require the conversion of all household gas appliances, the company believes this is not an insurmountable task, likening it to the nationwide programme to convert boilers and cookers from towns gas to natural gas in the sixties and seventies, following the discovery of North Sea reserves....snip more:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/09/uk-homes-could-be-heated-by-hydrogen-under-plan-to-tackle-global/

H21 Leeds City Gate

A practical answer for decarbonising heat presented to date.
Minimal Impact on Customers (85% use gas) Maximising the use of existing infrastructure.
Understanding lessons of the past and investments of today to influence options of the future
(PDF) http://www.praseg.org.uk/docs/PRASEG%20EVENT%20NGN%20SLIDES%20dan%20sadler.pdf

See also: The hydrogen city: clean, green & another nail in the fossil fuel coffin
http://www.thefifthestate.com.au/innovation/engineering/here-comes-the-hydrogen-city-clean-green-another-nail-in-the-fossil-fuel-coffin/81623

In the UK, H2 is #1

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1. Dan Sadler of Northern Gas Networks talking about the Leeds City Gate hydrogen project.

[Nihil]

2. You certainly do love your fossil fuels don't you?

> cost an estimated £2 billion, according to Northern Gas Networks (NGN),
> which is responsible for distributing gas across northern England

Pro-fracking (to justify the Conservative government's disgusting plans);
Pro-fossil fuel (to support the profits of the gas producers & distributors);
Pro-consumption ("this would require the conversion of all household gas appliances&quot ;

Yay Hydrogen!

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3. For that to help, it requires carbon capture and storage to work

and to keep the CO2 in the ground permanently ("The carbon would then be disposed of using carbon capture and storage technology, for example by pumping it into a disused North Sea gas field&quot . So far, this has not been demonstrated on a practical scale.

[NNadir]

4. A plan to fight climate change that ignores the second law of thermodynamics is nothing...

...if not delusional.

Hydrogen is not a source of energy, it is a means of storing energy. As such it requires an energy conversion, which according to the 2nd law of thermodynamics - means that it loses energy, i.e. wastes it.

The "hydrogen economy" has been a useless and somewhat noxious fantasy for more than half a century, promoted by scientific and engineering illiterates like Amory Lovins and other useless people.

It hasn't worked; it isn't working; and it won't work.

This has nothing to do with climate change, and everything to do with rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic so that the first class passengers are the last to go into the water.

Have a nice day tomorrow.