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Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 04:15 PM Dec 2015

Too Little, Too Late

Too Little, Too Late (John Michael Greer - The Archdruid Report)

Last week, after a great deal of debate, the passengers aboard the Titanic voted to impose modest limits sometime soon on the rate at which water is pouring into the doomed ship’s hull. Despite the torrents of self-congratulatory rhetoric currently flooding into the media from the White House and an assortment of groups on the domesticated end of the environmental movement, that’s the sum of what happened at the COP-21 conference in Paris. It’s a spectacle worth observing, and not only for those of us who are connoisseurs of irony; the factors that drove COP-21 to the latest round of nonsolutions are among the most potent forces shoving industrial civilization on its one-way trip to history’s compost bin.

The core issues up for debate at the Paris meeting were the same that have been rehashed endlessly at previous climate conferences. The consequences of continuing to treat the atmosphere as a gaseous sewer for humanity’s pollutants are becoming increasingly hard to ignore, but nearly everything that defines a modern industrial economy as “modern” and “industrial” produces greenhouse gases, and the continued growth of the world’s modern industrial economies remains the keystone of economic policy around the world. The goal pursued by negotiators at this and previous climate conferences, then, is to find some way to do something about anthropogenic global warming that won’t place any kind of restrictions on economic growth.

What that means in practice is that the world’s nations have more or less committed themselves to limit the rate at which the dumping of greenhouse gases will increase over the next fifteen years. I’d encourage those of my readers who think anything important was accomplished at the Paris conference to read that sentence again, and think about what it implies. The agreement that came out of COP-21 doesn’t commit anybody to stop dumping carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, now or at any point in the future. It doesn’t even commit anybody to set a fixed annual output that will not be exceeded. It simply commits the world’s nations to slow down the rate at which they’re increasing their dumping of greenhouse gases. If this doesn’t sound to you like a recipe for saving the world, let’s just say you’re not alone.


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Too Little, Too Late (Original Post) Binkie The Clown Dec 2015 OP
So, the question is… OKIsItJustMe Dec 2015 #1
No it's never too late to do something. GliderGuider Dec 2015 #2
Link through to the article, and there's a brilliant short video embedded hatrack Dec 2015 #3

OKIsItJustMe

(19,938 posts)
1. So, the question is…
Fri Dec 25, 2015, 10:07 PM
Dec 2015

Is it ever too late to do something?

The “skeptics” are correct that all factors are not precisely known. How about if we make an effort? (as if it weren’t too late?)

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
2. No it's never too late to do something.
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 04:08 PM
Dec 2015

It is too late to do things that will make life turn out according to our expectations.

However, it has always been too late for that...

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