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eridani

(51,907 posts)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 09:51 AM Dec 2015

Plastic-Bottle Homes Are Popping Up Around the World

http://www.takepart.com/article/2015/12/10/plastic-bottle-homes

In the United States alone, 47 billion plastic bottles are discarded annually, and worldwide, enough plastic is thrown out in a single year to circle the globe four times. But a form of construction being used throughout Africa and Latin America is making a difference, not only by reducing plastic waste but also by taking advantage of the durability of plastic bottles to provide shelter for the homeless.

The “bottle wall technique,” developed by German firm Ecotec Environmental Solutions, has been training people in Nigeria, where 16 million people are homeless, to build homes out of plastic

The process is simple. Bottles are collected and filled with sand, then stacked on their sides and bound together with mud or a cement mix, creating solid walls. The structures are well insulated, incredibly strong (20 times stronger than brick), fire resistant, and even bulletproof. A typical two-bedroom home with a toilet, a kitchen, and a living room requires 14,000 plastic bottles and costs a quarter of what a conventional house would.

An increasing number of communities around the world are experimenting with the technology. An Ecotec house in Ecoparque El Zamorano, Honduras, was built with 8,000 bottles without using cement, and it supports a green roof that weighs up to 30 tons when wet. Ecotec plastic-bottle greenhouses, office partitions, sheds, benches, walls, and community centers are also popping up in Tokyo, the U.S., Europe, and South America.


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Plastic-Bottle Homes Are Popping Up Around the World (Original Post) eridani Dec 2015 OP
20 times stronger than brick), fire resistant, and even bulletproof. Absolutely amazing sue4e3 Dec 2015 #1
The fact that he had to add bulletproof blows my mind riversedge Dec 2015 #26
Well, if they're going to be around forever without biodegrading, might as well use 'em! [nt] Jester Messiah Dec 2015 #2
Seems like UV degradation of the plastic would be a serious problem. phantom power Dec 2015 #3
I think if the ends are plastered over... gregcrawford Dec 2015 #6
Good question. I'd like to know that too. brush Dec 2015 #10
I think this has the same thermal properties as adobe. Those houses are cool in Summer and warm in thereismore Dec 2015 #13
The bottles are filled with sand so expansion and contraction should be no problem jmowreader Dec 2015 #17
Makes sense... gregcrawford Dec 2015 #18
Bottles are polycarbonate. They can have UV resistance built in. tclambert Dec 2015 #21
I thought they got brittle with UV and sunlight exposure...? Beartracks Dec 2015 #22
I don't know where you live, but virtually all soda and juice bottles are not polycarbonate Thor_MN Dec 2015 #34
I just decided how I'm going to build my steps and patio. Scuba Dec 2015 #4
Nothing new for beverage containers fxgindhart Dec 2015 #5
Beer bottle houses.... MADem Dec 2015 #20
So cool . . . fleur-de-lisa Dec 2015 #7
I love that place. Didn't they used to have the used tire homes? The filling of the tires with libdem4life Dec 2015 #27
I think they use a variety of methods. fleur-de-lisa Dec 2015 #28
A bit on the high side for me, too, and just a single woman. It would take at least one other libdem4life Dec 2015 #29
I have read a lot about them and fleur-de-lisa Dec 2015 #30
Yeah, me too almost identical. 3 years here...I'll have to look into the community more. Last I libdem4life Dec 2015 #31
I keep thinking the same thing . . . fleur-de-lisa Dec 2015 #32
LOL...there might be lots of ex-hippies that live there. I was very interested in aquaponics libdem4life Dec 2015 #33
How long before they're declared illegal? nxylas Dec 2015 #8
Brilliant! homegirl Dec 2015 #9
Grandma Prisbrey would approve. hunter Dec 2015 #11
Yes, she would. Tikki Dec 2015 #15
As long as they're being produced, they might as well go to good use. valerief Dec 2015 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Vincardog Dec 2015 #14
Apparently, you didn't read my post. Aren't plastic bottles made from petrochemicals (oil industry)? valerief Dec 2015 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author Vincardog Dec 2015 #25
Like discarded oil drums becoming musical instruments AwakeAtLast Dec 2015 #16
UV/environmental degradation? Goblor Dec 2015 #19
Look at the picture. The final step is to coat the outside with stucco. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #23

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
6. I think if the ends are plastered over...
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 11:01 AM
Dec 2015

... that risk would be eliminated. The house pictured looks pretty cool. I wonder, though, how such a structure would fare in the Northeast, or anywhere with temperature extremes, and the attendant expansion and contraction.

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
13. I think this has the same thermal properties as adobe. Those houses are cool in Summer and warm in
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 04:18 PM
Dec 2015

winter, but the walls need to be ~10'' thick or more.

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
18. Makes sense...
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 08:35 PM
Dec 2015

... okay, I'm sold! I'll just burn down this drafty old 188-year-old farmhouse and start over again! Simple!

I wish...

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
21. Bottles are polycarbonate. They can have UV resistance built in.
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 11:42 PM
Dec 2015

"Unmodified polycarbonate resins (Hydex® 4301, Lexan®, Makrolon®) will degrade upon exposure to sunlight. Polycarbonate will yellow and become hazy after 1 year of exposure. UV resistant grades are available."

Source: http://www.sdplastics.com/ultravioletresistance.html

I don't know if the typical 2-liter soft drink bottle has UV resistance. I can't recall seeing one turn yellow or hazy.

Beartracks

(12,821 posts)
22. I thought they got brittle with UV and sunlight exposure...?
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 02:32 AM
Dec 2015

Maybe I'm thinking of some other kind of common plastic waste.

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Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
34. I don't know where you live, but virtually all soda and juice bottles are not polycarbonate
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 11:44 AM
Dec 2015

One can get expensive reusable bottles of polycarbonate, but what one finds on store shelves filled with beverages is PET or PETE, Polyethylene Terephthalate. One can recognize them by a triangle made of arrows (recycling symbol) with a 1 inside.

All plastics will eventually photodegrade, but the timeframe varies widely based on conditions and additives.

I would not care to live under a 3 ton green roof in a warm, humid, bright environment supported by bottles designed to use the minimal amount of material needed to transport beverages from bottling plant to market. At least without protecting the exposed ends from sunlight.

fxgindhart

(1 post)
5. Nothing new for beverage containers
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 10:36 AM
Dec 2015

During the Vietnam War, I saw many hovels covered with flattened beer and soda cans.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
27. I love that place. Didn't they used to have the used tire homes? The filling of the tires with
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 03:36 PM
Dec 2015

dirt was the same. Seems to me the tires would be easier to collect and certainly build faster. But I'd take either one.

fleur-de-lisa

(14,628 posts)
28. I think they use a variety of methods.
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 03:48 PM
Dec 2015

I know many of the structures employ the use of tires and glass bottles (I don't know about plastic). They try to make the homes as sustainable as possible, with vegetable gardens and thermal heat.

They offer 2 week courses where you learn to design and construct your own Earthship. I would love to do it sometime, but have never had the vacation time or extra money. I think it costs about $2,500 to attend.

If I ever win the lottey or inherit any money, my dream would be to learn how to build sustainable housing, such as Earthships, then go to different areas of the country to help people build them!

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
29. A bit on the high side for me, too, and just a single woman. It would take at least one other
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 04:52 PM
Dec 2015

equally committed person, a lot of time, land and money...they are not cheap.

fleur-de-lisa

(14,628 posts)
30. I have read a lot about them and
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 05:12 PM
Dec 2015

they can be incredibly inexpensive, depending on how much of the work you do yourself. And if you decide to build within an established Earthship community, there are neighbors who will gladly help help you build.

Then when you add in the energy savings from low heating/cooling costs, and the fact that many of the building materials are recycled, they can be quite affordable. From what I have read, they can be as simple or as luxurious as your budget allows.

Now I just have to get off my ass
and commit to building one! I would love to move to Colorado or New Mecico to build one of these things. I am a single woman too. I just uprooted myself 5 years ago to move halfway across the country, where I had no friends or connections. I'm working up my courage to do it again!

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
31. Yeah, me too almost identical. 3 years here...I'll have to look into the community more. Last I
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 05:16 PM
Dec 2015

was in that space there were very few actually living there....I think they had just finished Dennis Weaver's home. Thanks for the heads up. Maybe they need a school teacher there????

fleur-de-lisa

(14,628 posts)
32. I keep thinking the same thing . . .
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 05:41 PM
Dec 2015

what could I offer that others would view as valuable in a rural community? I'm good at growing things. Maybe I should become an expert at growing pot! But in my state, that would get me arrested. Still illegal in my Neanderthal state of Louisiana.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
33. LOL...there might be lots of ex-hippies that live there. I was very interested in aquaponics
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 06:10 PM
Dec 2015

and such...cheap, renewable, love fish, and then water the gardens.

Growing food is like way up there on the skills list. It's not just a quick trip to WalMart for milk and eggs. I wanted to do chickens...a treasure trove of protein...either way. Such a shame so many of the idealistic communities over the years got sucked back into the system.

Just checked...Dancing Rabbit was one I really wanted to go to...check it out...

http://www.dancingrabbit.org/ This one started with almost nothing...and old converted school bus, as I recall. Pretty sure they planted smoking material there.

I almost forgot we're on a political site...they'll probably think we're nuts...well, I have some surfing to do now.

homegirl

(1,433 posts)
9. Brilliant!
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 12:07 PM
Dec 2015

Only question is the footings and foundations. Would these buildings be weakened by heavy rains if the underpinnings are not adequate?

valerief

(53,235 posts)
12. As long as they're being produced, they might as well go to good use.
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 03:23 PM
Dec 2015

However, I hate that we use up so much fuel in shipping bottles of soda to consumers. And, of course, the oil industry gets even richer because the bottles are plastic. Same with bottles of shampoo/conditioner, laundry/diswashing detergent, liquid soap, and other plastic-encased shipped fluids. Even though the containers get recycled, do we need to ship so much heavy fluid?

Response to valerief (Reply #12)

valerief

(53,235 posts)
24. Apparently, you didn't read my post. Aren't plastic bottles made from petrochemicals (oil industry)?
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 03:13 PM
Dec 2015

Response to valerief (Reply #24)

Goblor

(163 posts)
19. UV/environmental degradation?
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 10:14 PM
Dec 2015

I wonder about UV degradation. In all the wild-places I've worked, from sub-tropical and the Sonoran Desert/Dry coastal areas to the Antarctic, most plastic bottles I've come across eventually degrade and fracture easily due to exposure to the elements and UV rays. How is this accounted for with these constructions? Seems like a possible waste of effort if the bottle degrades fast under local environmental conditions. Any insights on this?

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