Nissan Announces Up To $7,000 Credit For Buying Your Leased LEAF

[OKIsItJustMe]

http://insideevs.com/nissan-announces-up-to-7000-credit-for-buying-your-leased-leaf/

[font face=Serif][font size=5]BREAKING: Nissan Announces Up To $7,000 Credit For Buying Your Leased LEAF[/font]

3 days ago by Eric Loveday

[font size=3]In an effort to get LEAF lessees to outright buy the electric car at the end of the lease, Nissan is upping the ante even more – perhaps in anticipation of an expected longer range (30 kWh) 2016 Nissan LEAF changing residual values this fall?

If you recall, a few weeks back Nissan began offering 2012 and 2013 LEAF lessees a $5,000 credit towards the purchase of their leased LEAFs. Basically, Nissan Motor Acceptance Corporation (NMAC – the leasing/financing arm of Nissan) was knocking $5,000 off the buy-out price of the leased LEAF.

That $5,000 credit remains in place for some LEAF lessees, but there are even better deals offered for others. The new program announced by NMAC breaks down as follows:

• 2011 LEAF – $2,000 credit/discount off residual buy-out price
• 2012 LEAF – $7,000 credit/discount off residual buy-out price for 24-month lessees or $5,000 credit/discount off residual buy-out price for 36-month lessees.
• 2013 LEAF -$6,500 credit/discount off residual buy-out price for 24-month lessees or $5,000 credit/discount off residual buy-out price for 36-month lessees.

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http://cleantechnica.com/2015/06/10/7000-credit-offered-by-nissan-for-nissan-leaf-lease-buyout/

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Unfortunately, LEAF resale prices seem to be steadily falling even further, and it is actually losing its value faster than any other new car. Not only are a bunch of them coming off lease, but rumor has it a much-improved 105-mile LEAF could be in the worlds for the 2016 model year, not to say anything of a second-generation follow-up that could be good for 150 miles or more per charge. There’s also a brand new Chevy Volt to contend with, and a greater variety of EVs to choose from compared to just three years ago. Most LEAF lessees probably won’t be going back to combustion cars, which is good for the air, but not so good for Nissan if they aren’t buying another LEAF.

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https://www.cars.com/articles/used-nissan-leaf-prices-still-falling-in-april-1420680432078/

[font face=Serif][font size=5]Used Nissan Leaf Prices Still Falling in April[/font]

By Mike Hanley on May 11, 2015

[font size=3] For the second month in a row, prices for used Nissan Leafs sank more than any other used car, dropping 4.7 percent ($708) in April. Used prices for the all-electric Leaf are down 14 percent ($2,362) year-to-date while the average price for all late-model used cars is up 1 percent ($258) to $23,167.

Related: Used Nissan Leaf Prices Fall Sharply in March

Gas prices aren't driving demand for alternative-fuel cars like the Leaf. Even though the national average for a gallon of regular has been moving up in recent weeks and now stands around $2.65, according to AAA, it's still about a dollar less than a year ago when the average for a gallon of regular was $3.67.

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[Fred Sanders]

1. What happens to the internal combustion engine when a charged car battery pack powers a vehicle for 500 miles?

Can you say "obsolete"?

Happening much sooner than most folks think, I think.

[Travis_0004]

2. It will take time before we get there

Also, I own my house, I can buy an EV and put in a charging station very easy.

What about apartment complexes? Adding charging stations will be quite expensive. Eventually the demand will be high enough that its needed to attract residents but that will take a while.

We also need to figure out how to tax EV vehicles for the miles they drive since they dont pay their fair share of road taxes.

[OKIsItJustMe]

3. Taxing EV’s

A few things come to mind:

1. Society benefits from people driving EV’s, so we give them tax incentives, the lack of fuel taxes is essentially just another tax incentive.
2. There have been concerns expressed about “hybrids” not paying their fair share as well. OK, so let’s put a federal tax on tires. By-and-large, the people who drive more miles, will buy more tires, and pay more taxes.

[Travis_0004]

4. The problem with a tax on tires is the upfront cost

Lets say tires last 50k miles. If the vehicle gets 30mpg, then they will use 1666 gallons of gas, and pay 833 dollars in taxes(assumes 50 cents a gallon on average) (or about 208 dollars a tire.)

So if a family bought four tires, they would pay 833 dollars in taxes on the tires, or double the cost now. At least fuel taxes are spread over several years.

You could also say hybrids don't pay their fair share, but its better than EV's which pay nothing.

[Finishline42]

5. If you are going to tax based on miles driven - then

If you are going to tax based on miles driven - then you are going to have other problems, and #1 is how are you going to track them? GPS? That won't fly. Yearly inspection? more reliable now that most odometers are digital but I'm sure there would be a hack available on the internet in no time.

I drive a Prius and would have no problem with a road tax based on the mileage but only if it was weight adjusted. I shouldn't pay the same as a Lincoln Navigator - it weighs close to 3 tons, the Prius half that. The heavier the vehicle, the more wear and tear on our roads, so the tax should be higher.

[Travis_0004]

6. I would just do a flat tax

Figure out the gas taxes for a prius who drives 10k miles a year, and charge that amount.

If you drive less than that, you can go to an annual inspection, and pay for actual miles.

Most vehicles will drive more than 10k miles, but that's ok, since it is a bit of a subsidy for electric vehicles.

[Nihil]

7. Taxing EVs (and hybrids) is just a Republican ploy to maintain Business As Usual.

The "wear & tear" from electric & hybrid vehicles doesn't even make it
onto the scale when you include all road vehicles. Their contribution is
best collected by an annual road tax with the rates proportionate to the
CO2 emissions at the exhaust pipe. (*)

e.g., https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables


In addition, with regards to public charging stations, it can be done if there is
sufficient will:

https://www.goultralow.com/how-do-i-power/charging-on-the-go/

And that's from a country that has been run by Conservatives (or Tory-lite)
for decades ...



(*) For the folks who want to throw in the "but what about the pollution from
the power stations", that is addressed in the same way that domestic and
industrial electricity use pollution should be being addressed - a true carbon
tax at the generator end (i.e., no farting around with "carbon credits" but a
blanket "£X for Y g/kW" approach). Until the domestic & industrial usage is
taken into account, there is no point in piddling around with the tiny fraction
that EVs/PHVs will use.