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OKIsItJustMe

(19,938 posts)
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 08:35 PM Mar 2012

Gasoline worse than diesel when it comes to some types of air pollution

http://www.agu.org/news/press/pr_archives/2012/2012-14.shtml
[font face=Times, Times New Roman, Serif][font size=5]Gasoline worse than diesel when it comes to some types of air pollution[/font]

2 March 2012
AGU Release No. 12-14
For Immediate Release

[font size=3]WASHINGTON —The exhaust fumes from gasoline vehicles contribute more to the production of a specific type of air pollution—secondary organic aerosols (SOA)—than those from diesel vehicles, according to a new study by scientists from the Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences (CIRES), NOAA’s Earth System Research Laboratory (ESRL) and other colleagues.

“The surprising result we found was that it wasn’t diesel engines that were contributing the most to the organic aerosols in LA,” said CIRES research scientist Roya Bahreini, who led the study and also works at NOAA's ESRL. “This was contrary to what the scientific community expected.”

SOAs are tiny particles that are formed in air and make up typically 40 percent to 60 percent of the aerosol mass in urban environments. This is important because fine-particle pollution can cause human health effects, such as heart or respiratory problems.

Due to the harmful nature of these particles and the fact that they can also impact the climate and can reduce visibility, scientists want to understand how they form, Bahreini said. Researchers had already established that SOAs could be formed from gases released by gasoline engines, diesel engines, and natural sources—biogenic agents from plants and trees—but they had not determined which of these sources were the most important, she said. “We needed to do the study in a location where we could separate the contribution from vehicles from that of natural emissions from vegetation,” Bahreini said.

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http://dx.doi.org/10.1029/2011GL050718
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Gasoline worse than diesel when it comes to some types of air pollution (Original Post) OKIsItJustMe Mar 2012 OP
Quit wining and do the study MORON! socialindependocrat Mar 2012 #1
I don't think it's quite that simple OKIsItJustMe Mar 2012 #2
Thanks for clarifying socialindependocrat Mar 2012 #3

socialindependocrat

(1,372 posts)
1. Quit wining and do the study MORON!
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 08:46 PM
Mar 2012

All you have to do to get one number is run a gas and a diesel engine and collect the exhaust fumes and analyse them.

If you want to test the engines under stress you put them on a dynamometer.

You expand from there.

OKIsItJustMe

(19,938 posts)
2. I don't think it's quite that simple
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 09:19 PM
Mar 2012
http://www.cas.manchester.ac.uk/resactivities/aerosol/topics/secondaryorganic/
[font face=Times, Times New Roman, Serif][font size=5]Secondary Organic Aerosol[/font]

[font size=3]Secondary organic aerosols represent a major component of atmospheric particulates, affecting the global radiation budget through the direct and indirect effects. However, our capability to accurately predict these is currently hampered by relative scarcity of the detailed measurements needed in many environments and a lack of mechanistic understanding of the formation processes. To address these scientific needs, a programme of coordinated atmospheric measurements, laboratory experiments and model development is being performed by NCAS staff at the University of Manchester.

Organic aerosols can form in a variety of different scenarios, with different environments around the world presenting different conditions (temperature, humidity, sunlight), precursors (biogenic and anthropogenic VOCs) and oxidants (ozone and radicals). In order to provide a more comprehensive characterisation and help constrain the many variables within the theoretical framework, measurements of organic aerosols are performed in many different locations around the world and at different times of the year in conjunction with major field campaigns. This has included biogenically-dominated regions such as remote forests ranging from boreal to tropical. It has also included polluted regions, such an inner cities and regions downwind, marine environments (ships and coastal measurements) and sites which could be expected to receive influences from a number of sources. The principle measurement technique used is the AMS, which provides a measurement of total organic matter and some information on functionality. However this is frequently performed in conjunction with other on- and offline techniques by other groups, for example HNMR and FTIR spectroscopy and gas- and liquid chromatography. These data are systematically compared across measurement techniques and sites to identify and characterise specific sources and processes. They are also reconciled with the model and chamber data to assess model performance and guide future work.

It has long been recognised that photochemical “smog”, or aerosol, chambers can provide valuable insights into the complex multiphase processes leading to the formation and transformation of secondary organic aerosols, which cannot be readily derived from more conventional laboratory studies. The Manchester aerosol chamber is currently the only facility in the UK where photochemical formation and transformation of aerosols is, and can be, studied under atmospherically realistic conditions. These chamber studies are central to a broader programme of chemical and physical aerosol property investigations, directly providing data and understanding to detailed aerosol models. The chamber studies are performed using i) selected individual precursors representative of specific environments ii) synthetic mixtures of precursors and iii) real emissions from selected sources (e.g. plants). The chamber programme ranges from formation and transformation of secondary organic aerosols (SOA) under seeded and un-seeded conditions.

Improving our ability to fully understand and predict the formation and impacts of secondary organic aerosol requires development of appropriate modelling tools. Accounting for composition dependent phenomena allows development of mechanistic understanding of process level phenomena while aiding development of meaningful routes to reduce chemical complexity within large-scale models. Tools at either end of this spectrum necessarily have vastly different levels of chemical and numerical complexity: from explicit consideration of intermolecular interactions to lumped representations of organic compounds in the atmosphere. At CAS, a holistic approach is taken such that models on both scales are used in conjunction with both field and laboratory studies (chamber and ambient). Targeted laboratory studies on fundamental properties of organic compounds enable improved representations of SOA across all model scales. The chemical composition of SOA is immensely complex, which renders manual calculation of aerosol properties near impossible. Informatic tools developed at Manchester negate this, allowing investigation of systems with any level of organic complexity. Convolving subsequent predictions of SOA loadings with appropriate instrument response functions allow direct comparisons between models and measurements. These results are used to directly inform future developments on state of the art models along with providing further guidance on experimental programmes.[/font][/font]


(Why do so many people assume that researchers are idiots?)

socialindependocrat

(1,372 posts)
3. Thanks for clarifying
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 12:57 AM
Mar 2012

Here was the key statement:

The chemical composition of SOA is immensely complex, which renders manual calculation of aerosol properties near impossible.

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