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hatrack

(59,592 posts)
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 05:24 PM Feb 2015

For First Time In History Of Humans, 1-Month Likely CO2 Average Stays Above 400 PPM



Last year, the monthly average didn’t go above the 400 parts per million (ppm) mark until April, which was the first month in human history with carbon dioxide (CO2) levels that high. Levels stayed that high for a full three months, and they are likely to stay that high for many more this year. In just a few years, CO2 levels will be above this threshold permanently.

Carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere have been measured at the observatory atop Hawaii’s Mauna Loa volcano since 1958. That record — called the Keeling Curve, after the scientist who began the measurements, Charles Keeling — has shown the clear rise of CO2 over the decades. The Keeling Curve first recorded a daily level of 400 ppm on May 9, 2013. The following year, CO2 passed that benchmark in March, and this year, on January 1.

“I am not surprised that we are seeing daily means greater than 400 already popping up regularly. Next year that should start happening in November,” Pieter Tans, a climate scientist with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, said in an email at the time. CO2 measurements hovered around the 400 ppm line throughout January, but the monthly average was just below that threshold. While a few days in February had averages below 400 ppm, most have been at or above, as have weekly averages.

“So, despite the normal slow down in CO2 growth rate that occurs at Mauna Loa in January and February of most years, February's monthly mean looks certain to be greater than 400 ppm,” Stephen Walker, a scientist at Scripps Institution of Oceanography, which runs the Mauna Loa observatory, said in an email.

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http://www.climatecentral.org/news/400-ppm-co2-february-2015-18710
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For First Time In History Of Humans, 1-Month Likely CO2 Average Stays Above 400 PPM (Original Post) hatrack Feb 2015 OP
Back in the old days we worried about 350. Warren Stupidity Feb 2015 #1
The number of recs marym625 Feb 2015 #2
Declare a war on coal/beef/oil industrialists and nearly all our "representatives." valerief Feb 2015 #3
Weather Underground marym625 Feb 2015 #4
Big Pharma has made sure people are drugged into inertia/indifference. valerief Feb 2015 #5
I agree. n/t marym625 Mar 2015 #10
E/E was far more engaged a couple of years ago. GliderGuider Feb 2015 #6
Guess I shouldn't speak for other E/E inhabitants... phantom power Feb 2015 #7
Same here. GliderGuider Feb 2015 #9
even some of the investigative journalists marym625 Mar 2015 #11
But Inhofe made a snowball! Hissyspit Feb 2015 #8
Well, someone's got to stand up for Freedumb! hatrack Mar 2015 #12
 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
1. Back in the old days we worried about 350.
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 06:49 PM
Feb 2015

Slow boiled. The ruling elites don't fucking care. Nothing is going to be done.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
2. The number of recs
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 07:10 PM
Feb 2015

And replies that this post and others like it get, make me wonder how much we actually care. Or understand. Maybe a combination.

This is horrible. Seriously, how do we come back from this?

valerief

(53,235 posts)
3. Declare a war on coal/beef/oil industrialists and nearly all our "representatives."
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 07:18 PM
Feb 2015

A real war. With artillery and everything. But most people are too busy trying to get by.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
4. Weather Underground
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 07:23 PM
Feb 2015

I believe that the only way things will change is just what you said. I also don't know if it will happen. People are complacent and, as you said, just trying to get by.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
5. Big Pharma has made sure people are drugged into inertia/indifference.
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 07:26 PM
Feb 2015

But the only way to fight oligarchs is with fighting, unfortunately.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
6. E/E was far more engaged a couple of years ago.
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 07:44 PM
Feb 2015

Then I think "outrage fatigue" set in.

I don't think we're going to come back from this. That's what prompts me to be quieter these days.

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
7. Guess I shouldn't speak for other E/E inhabitants...
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 08:17 PM
Feb 2015

but I think it was internalizing the realization that nobody was going to stop burning fossil fuels. There is no level of consequence that will cause that to happen.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
9. Same here.
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 08:53 PM
Feb 2015
Hey, it was nice while it lasted, and at least we get to live out the rest of our time here in utter amazement. That's not so bad. The awareness sux if you have kids, though.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
11. even some of the investigative journalists
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 12:26 AM
Mar 2015

That were tackling big oil, seem to have stopped.

Too late

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