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hatrack

(59,587 posts)
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 07:52 PM Jul 2013

SAD Freaking Article From The Guardian About Kids, The Outdoors And Today's Fear Of Everything

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Bond calculated another staggering fact. His mother, Helen, who is 81 and lives with the family in London, grew up in Hornsea, Yorkshire, and at the age of 11 roamed across 50 square miles. When he was a boy, in the 1970s, he roamed within 1 square mile. His children wander freely only as far as their 140-square-metre garden permits and he admits that they are fortunate to have such a large garden in the capital. "We're so lucky compared with most Londoners," he says. "I own a tree."

It is difficult to decipher the precise constellation of social and economic changes that have made us afraid of nature, and curtailed a childhood outdoors. They are, however, visible through the lives of three generations of the Bond family. Helen was the eldest of three children growing up on the edge of Hornsea. Her mother was a full-time housewife but the children were left to play on their own – in the garden, the surrounding countryside, the nearby golf course and beach. They were outside as much as possible in all weathers, she remembers. "It was just a fun place to explore because parts of it were a bit wild."

It wasn't idyllic: the sea (where they swam unsupervised by adults) was brown, there was barbed wire and old pillboxes from the second world war on the eroding cliffs, and once, when she cycled the mile and a half to catch the school bus, a man exposed himself to Helen and her friend. Her friend told her mother, who said, "We all know they've got these things," and that was about it. Bond contrasts this memory with modern overreactions: Ivy's primary school recently circulated an email about reports of a white van seen outside school gates in the area and for three weeks the school run became a scrum until parents forgot about it.

Bond grew up in Canterbury in the 1970s. He did not roam nearly as far as his mother, but he played outdoors in the street with friends. Their favourite stomping ground was the local hospital. "We used to crawl through air-conditioning ducts and follow the pipes. It was an amazing adventure playground. We'd play dare, and see how far we could walk through the corridors before we were stopped," he says. There was no secure fencing or security guards. For his film, Bond returned to Canterbury and talked to some children he found playing in his old street. "They were very gloomy about their level of freedom, talking about how the neighbours complain if they make a noise or play ball games," he says.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2013/jul/13/no-freedom-play-outside-children

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SAD Freaking Article From The Guardian About Kids, The Outdoors And Today's Fear Of Everything (Original Post) hatrack Jul 2013 OP
when I was a kid my dad worked more than one job Skittles Jul 2013 #1
My kids play outside all the time. vi5 Jul 2013 #2
not so much that they CAN'T Skittles Jul 2013 #4
again, C.S. Lewis to the rescue MisterP Jul 2013 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author stuntcat Jul 2013 #7
Not afraid of nature sue4e3 Jul 2013 #5
Living is Dangerous. Throckmorton Jul 2013 #6

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
1. when I was a kid my dad worked more than one job
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 08:00 PM
Jul 2013

my brothers and I would bike for miles to see him at a gas station where he moonlighted as a mechanic and yes, we roamed for miles too

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
2. My kids play outside all the time.
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 08:01 PM
Jul 2013

I find this whole "Kids can't do anything today, not like the good old days!!" just ridiculous.

Are some parents paranoid? Sure. Doesn't mean you have to be.

Are some areas more risky and dangerous than others to let your kids run free without supervision? Yes. That's what I find missing in so many of these scare pieces. A realization that lots of things are different, population density in most places being one of them. Running around "the neighborhood" in a lot of places, kids can encounter more people than they might have "back in the good old days". It's just averages. Still doesn't mean you necessarily need to be paranoid, but also the world is not exactly the same place as it was back then.

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
4. not so much that they CAN'T
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 09:37 PM
Jul 2013

they very often do not WANT to go outside - they'd rather play with electronics

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
3. again, C.S. Lewis to the rescue
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 08:51 PM
Jul 2013

"At present, I allow, we must have forests, for the atmosphere. Presently we find a chemical substitute. And then, why any natural trees? I foresee nothing but the art tree all over the earth. In fact, we clean the planet."

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sue4e3

(731 posts)
5. Not afraid of nature
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 08:47 AM
Jul 2013

I don't think people are afraid of nature. I think they're afraid of other humans and disease. Think of all the diseases you never heard of when we were kids. We would swim in ponds and lakes when I was a kid (70s-90s). I am very careful about where my kids go and swim now . Not sure what was dumped there last or what bug ,organism or person might hurt or kill them. A lot of that is the internet we have access to all the bad info our parents didn't.

Throckmorton

(3,579 posts)
6. Living is Dangerous.
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 09:38 AM
Jul 2013

My two older kids have free run of this end of town, both are teens and are no more apt to get into trouble around here than I was 35 years ago. My youngest is 6, and restricted to our street.

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