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hatrack

(59,592 posts)
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 10:30 AM Feb 2013

"How Could Your Grace Expect To Find Men Where They Are Not?" - On The Precautionary Principle

As Michael Brander tells it, in his book on the Scottish Highland Regiments, the Scottish Highlands produced, between 1740 and 1815 men for some 86 Highland Regiments who travelled around the world to strengthen the British Empire. But, towards the end of that period sheep were introduced into Scotland and the great land clearances began that replaced the crofters on the estates with the occasional lone shepherd and his flocks. Thus, by the time of the Crimean War when the Duke of Sutherland tried to raise a regiment he got no volunteers. As an old man explained to him:

I am sorry for the response your Grace’s proposals are meeting here today, so near the spot where your maternal grand-mother, by giving some forty-eight hours notice, marshaled 1,500 men to pick out the 800 she required. But there is a cause for it, and a genuine cause, and, as your Grace demands to know it, I must tell you, as I see that none else is inclined in the assembly to do so. These lands are now devoted to rear dumb animals which your parents considered of far more value than men . . . . your parents, yourself and your Commissioners have desolated the glens and the straths of Sutherland where you should find hundreds, yea thousands of men to meet and respond to your call cheerfully had your parents kept faith with them. How could your Grace expect to find men where they are not?

The anecdote illustrates that there are long-term consequences to policy decisions, often not fully recognized when the original decisions are made. I was reminded of the Scottish situation as I contemplate the great race to renewable energy and natural gas, and the rapid replacement being urged for coal-fired power stations and nuclear power plants. And there are some grounds for seeing an analogy to that earlier situation.

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With the occasional collapse of the odd wind turbine, and the difficulty in seeing how solar power can help in the blizzards and snow storms I have gone through in the last week, there is some concern over the size of the contribution that these technologies can make into the energy mix of the next decade. In those circumstances, a wise application of the Precautionary Principle to future energy supplies, in both Europe and the United States, might suggest that sufficient legacy power systems be left in place to ensure that neither community is left short of energy in the years ahead. This is to guard against the proposed replacements being either inadequate or insufficient to meet the future need.

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http://www.theoildrum.com/node/9849#more

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"How Could Your Grace Expect To Find Men Where They Are Not?" - On The Precautionary Principle (Original Post) hatrack Feb 2013 OP
Thoughtful application of the precautionary principle wtmusic Feb 2013 #1
The precautionary principle is applied to situations where data is lacking - we have tons of data kristopher Feb 2013 #2

wtmusic

(39,166 posts)
1. Thoughtful application of the precautionary principle
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 01:45 PM
Feb 2013

requires knowledgeable assessment of the consequences, and this one is diametrically in opposition to accepted climate science.

If anything the PP would suggest immediately shuttering coal plants, ramping up natural gas in their place and restoring the remnants of our nuclear energy program.

The benefits of BAU with coal are dwarfed by the consequences.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
2. The precautionary principle is applied to situations where data is lacking - we have tons of data
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 03:11 PM
Feb 2013
Cost-minimized combinations of wind power, solar power and electrochemical storage, powering the grid up to 99.9% of the time
Open Access Article
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0378775312014759

Nothing but another appeal to preserve the status quo economics of a system designed around large scale centralized thermal (coal, nuclear and large scale natgas).
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