Just got back from seeing "Chasing Ice" - ask me anything!

[hatrack]

Do. Not. Miss.

The scale of what they're photographing really does have to be seen in a theater to make the movie really work.

[PoliticAverse]

1. Is chasing ice easier than chasing tornadoes ? n/t

[hatrack]

2. Yes, much slower, no involvement with Helen Hunt or bad dialogue

[a geek named Bob]

3. Did it offer any solutions? n/t

[hatrack]

6. Not really, unless your solutions involve weather-proofing digital camera systems

The example, though, of the guy who quit working at Shell after seeing Balog's photography to work full-time on climate issues was pretty cool.

[a geek named Bob]

8. It's a start...

I'm always going to gravitate to folks that prefer to find solutions.

It's not in my nature to sit in a heap and moan.

Was there good cinematography?

[hatrack]

9. The 20-minute segment on highly everaged carbon emissions futures trading - MOST enlightening!

nt

[a geek named Bob]

10. okay, now you're just being a tease...

To the best of my knowledge, there's no place to see the film in my neck of the woods.

Damn it!

If you're going to be a tease, at least buy me dinner!

Seriously though, In addition to the CO2 eating balloons I've talked about, some Makers I know are working on CO2 eating rafts.

As long as we don't generate more than 2 more teratons of CO2 within the next 20 years, we can beat the Global Warmin effect within 60 years. I won't live to see it finished, but I figure it's a nice legacy.

[NoOneMan]

11. He is a photographer

His purpose is to raise awareness by translating an abstract idea into tangible and dramatic visuals

Not everyone uses their soapbox to simply tout their pie-in-the-sky ideas they want people to invest in

[a geek named Bob]

12. raising awareness is nice...

solutions are better.

who has asked for money?

Your snark has - yet again - failed.

[joshcryer]

14. Have you started your methane collecting business?

Could be quite lucrative.

[a geek named Bob]

15. to be blunt, I hadn't thought about selling the methane

that was going to be the lifting gas for the balloons.

Selling the Graphite that wasn't used for extra balloons might be a business.

As for setting things up, I'm still trying to figure out the cheapest control circuits possible. (ie, I don't have the kind of money to front-load 65,000+ balloons with even a $30 computer. It hasto be a control circuit made from magnesium carbide/graphite/cheap plastics.)

[joshcryer]

16. I think you should work on it.

Start a Kickstarter.

[a geek named Bob]

17. hmmm... good point...

That could get things moving along rather nicely. Also, if enough money comes in early enough, it could shave YEARS off of the end date. And I could run several editions to this project.


hmmm... This bears thinking about.

I hadn't thought of this project is needing a business plan. I was just going to cobble it together, and let it go on.

[joshcryer]

18. Ah, but you're the one spouting about solutions!

Go make a plan, post it to Kickstarter / Reddit / Slashdot and even DU and see what happens!

Cobbling ideas together and hoping they magically get picked up is a non-starter.

[a geek named Bob]

19. And I believe I posted a solution.

As to the rest:

1.) "raising awareness" is a cop-out, in my opinion.
2.) As per your suggestion... I'll get to it. The hard part is still the cost of the control circuits.

[NoOneMan]

20. '"raising awareness" is a cop-out, in my opinion'

Because of Chasing Ice, millions of people who never thought global warming was real or is a threat will have their views radically changed in an couple of hours. Those are millions less opposed to climate change policy. Millions more examining how their lifestyle impacts the larger system. Millions more looking for real solutions, if they exist.

Cop out my ass. Merry Christmas

[a geek named Bob]

21. Merry christmas to you, too.

And I have no interest in your ass.

[GliderGuider]

22. "Raising awareness" is what prompts people to donate money to worthy causes

As well as to cockamamie projects. Don't knock it till you've cashed the check.

[joshcryer]

23. Nah, you posted speculation.

Speculation isn't a solution. Until someone sits down and shows me a way out, then I'm going to be rightly skeptical. It's one reason I am not very enthused with the LFTR folks. They haven't posted a design. Granted, they did start a company, and they are moving forward and their designs are probably going to be patented (and possibly ITAR related), but they at least have a roadmap, even if it is not yet clear.

[XemaSab]

24. Let me clue you in:

You were originally banned from this group for threadjacking.

This is a textbook example of threadjacking.

You're welcome to start an OP talking about your ideas. You're welcome to start 10 OPs talking about your ideas.

You're also welcome to opine that raising awareness is moot without solutions, we all hear that.

But this convo as it stands has wandered far off the OP.

In the future, please try to stay on the topic of the OP and try to remember that although your ideas are interesting, using them in order to dismiss the thoughts and ideas of other people is not OK.

Sincerely,

Xema the E/E Host

(Also, Merry Christmas!)

[Mojorabbit]

4. Weren't the visuals just breathtaking!

I thought it was just amazing.

[wtmusic]

5. Worth it if only to see a block of ice the size of Manhattan crumble before your eyes. nt

[Speck Tater]

7. I just wish it was playing in a theater near me instead of a hundred miles away. nt

[Delphinus]

13. That's my thought, too.

Is it environmentally the right thing to do - drive 150 miles, one-way - or do I wait and hope it will come out on DVD or to a theater near me soon?

[Speck Tater]

25. I'd buy the DVD today if it were offered. nt