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OnlinePoker

(5,721 posts)
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 09:00 AM Aug 2018

Hawaii - Wind Farms Want Permission To Kill More Bats -- A Lot More

Wind turbines are proving to be more of a menace than expected to opeapea — endangered Hawaiian hoary bats, the islands’ only native land mammal.

As a result, three wind energy farms are requesting increases in the amount of bats they are allowed to “take.”

“Take,” according to the Endangered Species Act, includes harassing, harming, pursuing, hunting, shooting, wounding, killing, trapping, capturing or collecting the animals.

In 2012, the farms received federal and state permits that allowed them to take a designated number of the bats. Two of permits were supposed to be in effect for 20 years, the third for 25. Combined, they were allowed to take 92 during those periods, but they have already exceeded that number.

https://www.civilbeat.org/2018/08/wind-farms-want-permission-to-kill-more-bats-a-lot-more/

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Hawaii - Wind Farms Want Permission To Kill More Bats -- A Lot More (Original Post) OnlinePoker Aug 2018 OP
Bats Kill Mosquitoes - Something to Think About dlk Aug 2018 #1
How many more bats will die from climate change? Merlot Aug 2018 #2
No. Duppers Aug 2018 #3
That's a good reason to oppose them. hunter Aug 2018 #4
TIME TO USE NETS ROB-ROX Aug 2018 #5
In fact, the wind industry, which has been useless to address climate change, is nothing more... NNadir Aug 2018 #6
Still jumping up and down? Finishline42 Aug 2018 #7

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
3. No.
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 10:47 AM
Aug 2018

There has to be another way than:

"Take,” according to the Endangered Species Act, includes harassing, harming, pursuing, hunting, shooting, wounding, killing, trapping, capturing or collecting the animals.


"Trapping, capturing" perhaps to relocate but not destroying these animals.




hunter

(38,317 posts)
4. That's a good reason to oppose them.
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 02:27 PM
Aug 2018

If you are destroying nature in order to "save" it, you're not doing it right.

ROB-ROX

(767 posts)
5. TIME TO USE NETS
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 05:37 PM
Aug 2018

The wind farm area could be shielded with a huge NET. The bats will "see" the net and STOP from entering the danger zone. It may cost time and money, but it will be AMAZING.........

NNadir

(33,524 posts)
6. In fact, the wind industry, which has been useless to address climate change, is nothing more...
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 02:28 PM
Aug 2018

...than a proposal to render remaining natural spaces into industrial parks.

The wind industry is not sustainable; it is not green; it is ineffective; unreliable and highly polluting, especially since it requires access to either natural gas or energy storage devices, neither of which are remotely sustainable.

The sooner humanity comes to its senses about this garbage, the better our chance of providing something, beyond garbage to clean up, for future generations.

Finishline42

(1,091 posts)
7. Still jumping up and down?
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 09:20 PM
Aug 2018

This was your stance when Texas was producing less than 1% of their electricity with wind - last year it was over 17%

Iowa produces close to 40% of their electricity via wind.

How many coal plants have been shut down as a result?

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