Environment & Energy
Related: About this forumnobody's talking about this... Drilling Arctic Refuge in Tax Bill
https://www.ecowatch.com/arctic-refuge-drilling-2517635533.html?utm_source=EcoWatch+List&utm_campaign=31703f6b5b-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_49c7d43dc9-31703f6b5b-85984465
SeaDoo77
(540 posts)Cleanup is impossible. At least until ALL the ice melts.
Sophia4
(3,515 posts)The EXXON Valdez was nothing compared to what could happen with drilling in the Arctic region.
Sophia4
(3,515 posts)motivations for Trump's cozying up to Putin is the possibility of drilling for oil in the Arctic, which both the US and Russia border. I don't know why I think this. I don't know whether it is true. It is no more than a hunch for me.
But watch this story.
FBaggins
(26,756 posts)Russia desperately wants to get the price of oil to increase. The single largest factor keeping that from happening is the significant (and increasing) production coming from the US.
The prospect of US production growing further (and for more years) could only place more downward pressure on the price of oil (definitely not in Russia's best interest).
hunter
(38,322 posts)Not just oil and gas, but other arctic resources as well.
If you look at the geography, about half the arctic is Northern European / Canadian and the other half is Russian / U.S.A..
As functioning social democracies the Northern European / Canadian faction will develop these resources in ways that benefit their general population. The Russia / U.S.A. faction will develop these resources in ways that benefit their plutocrats,
FBaggins
(26,756 posts)Collusion in prices and production in the current environment would mean the U.S. restraining our production. I can't see how opening ANWR fits into the discussion. They would instead be discussing regulations on fracking.
Sophia4
(3,515 posts)If Hillary had won, environmentalists would be heard in D.C.
And the demand for fossil fuels would decline.
Hillary did not nearly advocate for the environment strongly enough for me, but she sure was better than the Donald and Putin any day.
The sooner we move toward alternative energy the less value Putin's oil has. The price will decline for his oil if we use alternative energy.
That is my point.
My area of Southern California has had NO RAIN, none in over 6 months, probably closer to 7 or 8 months. Think of that. NO RAIN.
Global warming.
MythosMaster
(445 posts)The area is not a designated wilderness area and is without sunlight for 15 percent of the year. The Department of Interior highlights that the refuges Section 1002 has no trees, deep-water lakes, or mountain peaks. The entire refuge gets fewer than 1,000 visitors per year.
And it is a boom for freedom! This is the emssage they are hearing.
Trust in the mainstream media is at a historic lowand rightfully so given the behavior of many journalists in Washington, D.C.
Ever since Donald Trump was elected president, it is painfully clear that the mainstream media covers liberals glowingly and conservatives critically.
Now journalists spread false, negative rumors about President Trump before any evidence is even produced.
More at the Daily Signal.
I won't link there so you will have to type in the address if you want to read more rubbish.
handmade34
(22,756 posts)petition: https://www.addup.org/campaigns/tell-congress-to-protect-the-arctic-national-wildlife-refuge
Unbelievably, this Congress is advancing a plan that would destroy the wild character of the Arctic refuge. The tax bill currently before Congress includes a provision that would open the refuges coastal plain to oil and gas exploration and drilling. Drilling in the refuge would feed our fossil fuel addiction and could lead to contaminated waters, reduced wildlife, and oil spills that would destroy the Arctic tundra. Putting oil wells in such a place is appalling and un-American. Thats why Im fighting to protect the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.
Its also a matter of human rights. The Gwichin, an Alaska Native group, depend on the caribou herds that roam throughout the refuge. For the Gwichin, the coastal plain is sacred land. If we permit the destruction of this land, it would mark a victory for corporate greed and political corruption. Thats the antithesis of why I serve in the U.S. militaryto protect and defend our land and our people.
https://www.sierraclub.org/sierra/arctic-refuge-too-valuable-drill
https://www.sierraclub.org/press-releases/2017/12/murkowski-republican-leadership-wrong-arctic-drilling
Duppers
(28,125 posts)TY for posting this!
Sophia4
(3,515 posts)raven mad
(4,940 posts)Besides, Lisa and Dan want it; it'll enrich their coffers and not a penny will trickle to the folks who need it.