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Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts) Sat Sep 2, 2017, 04:19 PM Sep 2017

Why hydrogen fuel will never happen in TWO WORDS:

Better Batteries

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Why hydrogen fuel will never happen in TWO WORDS: (Original Post) Binkie The Clown Sep 2017 OP

We have a Fiat 500e. Fully electric. The two drawbacks stopbush Sep 2017 #1

There's a lot of work being done with "super-capacitors" that charge almost instantly. Binkie The Clown Sep 2017 #2

Along with the Thorium reactor and fusion energy. nt JayhawkSD Sep 2017 #3

There are supercharger stations available stopbush Sep 2017 #4

Where did you source your parts? mackdaddy Sep 2017 #5

My first e-bike Binkie The Clown Sep 2017 #6

Those are both being addressed with the next generation of cars. tinrobot Sep 2017 #7

I did the hydrogen math in the 'eighties and burned through three thesis advisers. hunter Sep 2017 #8

stopbush

(24,396 posts)

1. We have a Fiat 500e. Fully electric. The two drawbacks

Reply to Binkie The Clown (Original post)

Sat Sep 2, 2017, 06:16 PM

Sep 2017

are

1. Limited driving range of around 80 miles on a fully charged battery

2. Length of time to recharge. 23 hours to charge from zero energy on a 12-amp 120 line, 6 hours on a 30-amp 240 line.

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)

2. There's a lot of work being done with "super-capacitors" that charge almost instantly.

Reply to stopbush (Reply #1)

Sat Sep 2, 2017, 10:57 PM

Sep 2017

Those will probably be the next big thing.

I recently added an electric motor to my bicycle, and I'm so pleased with it that I'm doing the same to an adult tricycle. The bike is my sports car, and the trike will be my pickup truck. hehe.

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)

3. Along with the Thorium reactor and fusion energy. nt

Reply to Binkie The Clown (Reply #2)

Sun Sep 3, 2017, 01:42 AM

Sep 2017

stopbush

(24,396 posts)

4. There are supercharger stations available

Reply to Binkie The Clown (Reply #2)

Sun Sep 3, 2017, 01:35 PM

Sep 2017

that would charge a car like our Fiat in an hour or two. Fiat opted to not make the 500e compatible with those type of chargers.

mackdaddy

(1,527 posts)

5. Where did you source your parts?

Reply to Binkie The Clown (Reply #2)

Sun Sep 3, 2017, 04:11 PM

Sep 2017

I have been thinking of doing this for some time.

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)

6. My first e-bike

Reply to mackdaddy (Reply #5)

Sun Sep 3, 2017, 06:40 PM

Sep 2017

used a front wheel hub motor called "the Hill Topper". I got the 250W 24V version and I'm absolutely delighted with it. It works great.

The trike I'm working on now is a 24" Schwinn "Meridian" and has a 750W 36V front wheel hub motor from Amazon.com. I haven't finished the project yet, so I'm not able to comment on its performance since I haven't driven it yet.

tinrobot

(10,902 posts)

7. Those are both being addressed with the next generation of cars.

Reply to stopbush (Reply #1)

Sun Sep 3, 2017, 09:50 PM

Sep 2017

We're starting to see 150-200+ mile cars with fast DC charging as the new standard.

Several are already on the market --Chevy Bolt, Tesla Model 3, and the new Nissan Leaf (this month). In 2018, there will be another 4-6 longer range cars on the market, by 2020, there will be even more. We're getting there... slowly.

hunter

(38,313 posts)

8. I did the hydrogen math in the 'eighties and burned through three thesis advisers.

Reply to Binkie The Clown (Original post)

Mon Sep 4, 2017, 09:31 PM

Sep 2017

The third was a hydrogen energy economy prominent. I feel bad about that one because callous youth I was I hurt him, fuck you I'm moving on. Me crazy guy living in the garden shed and pissing in the garden of a mad PTSD Vietnamese war vet.

The fourth just wanted me gone and it was so. In spite of my fuck-you-all-with-cholla-cactus thesis. Hunter graduated, with extreme prejudice.

Don't be me.

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