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pinto

(106,886 posts)
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 02:12 PM Mar 2012

Whole Foods to stop sale of unsustainable seafood (AP)



Whole Foods to stop sale of unsustainable seafood
By Michael Hill | Associated Press

ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) — Whole Foods Market said Friday that it will stop selling fish caught from depleted waters or through ecologically damaging methods, a move that comes as supermarkets nationwide try to make their seafood selections more sustainable.

Starting Earth Day, April 22, the natural and organic supermarket chain will no longer carry wild-caught seafood that is "red-rated," a color code that indicates it is either overfished or caught in a way that harms other species. The ratings are determined by the Blue Ocean Institute, an advocacy group, and the Monterey Bay Aquarium in California.

Among the seafood disappearing from Whole Foods shelves will be octopus, gray sole, skate, Atlantic halibut and Atlantic cod caught by trawls, which can destroy habitats. The company will stock sustainable replacements like cod caught on lines and halibut from the Pacific.

"In the long term, what we're really looking to do is help reverse trends of overfishing and bi-catch, so that really we can move the industry as a whole toward greater sustainability," said seafood quality standards coordinator Carrie Brownstein. She added that Whole Foods is making the shift a year ahead of its internal deadline.

http://news.yahoo.com/whole-foods-stop-sale-unsustainable-seafood-070616482.html

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Whole Foods to stop sale of unsustainable seafood (AP) (Original Post) pinto Mar 2012 OP
Too bad the company is owned by a heartless Libertarian. Walk away Mar 2012 #1
Missed that. Who owns it? pinto Mar 2012 #2
John Makey. Anti health care reform, anti medicare, anti union. Walk away Mar 2012 #4
Ah...Thanks. pinto Mar 2012 #5
What about Shrimp from the Gulf and the BP blow-out of the oil rig? no_hypocrisy Mar 2012 #3
If so, what remains on the menu? Jellyfish? hatrack Mar 2012 #6
Alaskan salmon Kolesar Apr 2012 #7
however, the salmon are getting smaller, a sign of overharvest wordpix Apr 2012 #11
An article in Sierra Magazine said that the Alaskan salmon fishery was managed "sustainably" Kolesar Apr 2012 #20
All "seafood" is unsustainable. GliderGuider Apr 2012 #8
Seafood is sustainable, as I read the info, if we take from farther down the ocean food chain. pinto Apr 2012 #9
Sorry, please don't take this personally, but... GliderGuider Apr 2012 #10
I take very little personally, so no biggie on that point. But wouldn't anchovies be a better choice pinto Apr 2012 #12
For how long? GliderGuider Apr 2012 #13
We have to eat... pinto Apr 2012 #14
Yes, I agree. GliderGuider Apr 2012 #16
You make some good points. pinto Apr 2012 #17
I think acidification is the major long-term problem, even setting aside catastrophic overharvesting hatrack Apr 2012 #15
So when we fish out the oceans, they can't bounce back because by then they're too acid. GliderGuider Apr 2012 #18
Yeah, but just imagine how much the last bluefin will be worth! hatrack Apr 2012 #19

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
1. Too bad the company is owned by a heartless Libertarian.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 02:22 PM
Mar 2012

I would like to buy their sea food now but most Progressives and Liberals who know the company are boycotting it.

no_hypocrisy

(46,114 posts)
3. What about Shrimp from the Gulf and the BP blow-out of the oil rig?
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 02:32 PM
Mar 2012

Or tuna from the Japanese sea (Fukishima)?

hatrack

(59,587 posts)
6. If so, what remains on the menu? Jellyfish?
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 01:01 PM
Mar 2012

OTOH, glad they're doing something, though I think most of the horses are already out of the barn.

Kolesar

(31,182 posts)
7. Alaskan salmon
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 08:44 AM
Apr 2012

I buy that. I buy some amount of tuna, but avoid albacore because it has higher levels of mercury. I would like to quit tuna, but when we are traveling, the stores don't have much food I want. No hot dogs and burgers around our campfire

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
11. however, the salmon are getting smaller, a sign of overharvest
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 08:39 PM
Apr 2012

They are catching smaller fish in AK, meaning they are just youngsters. Crash in population will follow unless salmon gets greater protection

Kolesar

(31,182 posts)
20. An article in Sierra Magazine said that the Alaskan salmon fishery was managed "sustainably"
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 11:05 AM
Apr 2012

I read that years ago, shortly after I ate my last turkey dinner.
You may be right!
Think of how few people even are aware of these issues.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
8. All "seafood" is unsustainable.
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 02:21 PM
Apr 2012

If your horizon for sustainability is more than about 40 years out...

We have already eaten 90% of the large fish in the ocean. How long will it take us to haul out that last pesky 10% so the oceans are again as clean as the day they were born?

pinto

(106,886 posts)
9. Seafood is sustainable, as I read the info, if we take from farther down the ocean food chain.
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 02:35 PM
Apr 2012

Smaller, abundant, large school fish instead of the large fish.

pinto

(106,886 posts)
12. I take very little personally, so no biggie on that point. But wouldn't anchovies be a better choice
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 09:15 PM
Apr 2012

than albacore?

pinto

(106,886 posts)
14. We have to eat...
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 09:53 PM
Apr 2012

If your point is adopting a vegetarian menu, I can go with that. I think the point here is sustainability of what most of us eat. And some stewardship of our role in the food chain, since we have a choice.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
16. Yes, I agree.
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 10:24 PM
Apr 2012

I don't have a problem with eating some meat, but the oceans are a sore spot with me. Ocean fish are a unique case, because their food chain is essentially carnivorous. That means that if you fish out a lower trophic level, the ones that it supports can all collapse. Combine that with the difficulty of getting accurate population counts, the migratory nature of the fish and the floating "fish vacuums" the industry uses, and it's a recipe for catastrophe. A catastrophe that us already unfolding out of sight under the waves. The sea itself looks the same as it ever has, and that's a very dangerous thing.

I sincerely didn't mean that as a personal swipe against you, pinto. I know where you're coming from, and I agree that it's "more sustainable" to eat anchovies than tuna in the short run. What is so intensely frustrating is that so few people are thinking ecologically, over sufficiently long time horizons - especially as the noose is already tightening around our necks. Your comment just happened to hit one of my nerves. I'm sorry I didn't say my piece with more grace.

hatrack

(59,587 posts)
15. I think acidification is the major long-term problem, even setting aside catastrophic overharvesting
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 10:04 PM
Apr 2012

. . . which we don't seem to be serious about stopping anyway.

Abrupt, awkward transition.

One of the interesting questions that never gets asked is why the Somalis turned to piracy?

Failed state, economy in the shitter, endless internecine strife, all factors. But the one that never gets mentioned is factory fleets from the EU, Korea, SE Asia, other African countries offshore vacuuming up just as much as they want from the remaining wild stocks, and it's been going on since before the 1992 intervention.

Kind of hard to defend 12-mile limits and native fisheries with a non-government, and now that most of the fish are gone, what's a Somali ex-fisherman to do?

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
18. So when we fish out the oceans, they can't bounce back because by then they're too acid.
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 08:39 AM
Apr 2012

Sweet play...

hatrack

(59,587 posts)
19. Yeah, but just imagine how much the last bluefin will be worth!
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 09:27 AM
Apr 2012

Maybe we can set up a new speculative market in bluefin futures, so that we'll be able to take advantage of the Invisible Hand Job we're giving the rest of the planet.

After all, markets and incentives explain everything . . .

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