Environment & Energy
Related: About this forumAugust 2016 Atmospheric CO2 Content - 402.24 ppm; August 2015 - 399.00; August 2014 - 397.21
Per NOAA data, every month so far this year has run above 400 ppm. September and October have been the low months for atmospheric content since records began; will those monthly averages drop below 400? It doesn't look that way.
https://www.co2.earth/
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)OKIsItJustMe
(19,938 posts)To suggest that, is to distort the whole idea.
350 ppm is the level suggested by James Hansen et al, when CO₂ was already at [font size=5]385[/font] ppm. The idea is not about holding the line at 350 ppm, it is about decreasing CO₂ levels to 350 or lower.
https://arxiv.org/pdf/0804.1126
Abstract: Paleoclimate data show that climate sensitivity is ~3°C for doubled CO₂, including only fast feedback processes. Equilibrium sensitivity, including slower surface albedo feedbacks, is ~6°C for doubled CO₂ for the range of climate states between glacial conditions and ice-free Antarctica. Decreasing CO₂ was the main cause of a cooling trend that began 50 million years ago, the planet being nearly ice-free until CO₂ fell to 450 ± 100 ppm; barring prompt policy changes, that critical level will be passed, in the opposite direction, within decades. If humanity wishes to preserve a planet similar to that on which civilization developed and to which life on Earth is adapted, paleoclimate evidence and ongoing climate change suggest that CO₂ will need to be reduced from its current 385 ppm to at most 350 ppm, but likely less than that. The largest uncertainty in the target arises from possible changes of non-CO₂ forcings. An initial 350 ppm CO₂ target may be achievable by phasing out coal use except where CO₂ is captured and adopting agricultural and forestry practices that sequester carbon. If the present overshoot of this target CO₂ is not brief, there is a possibility of seeding irreversible catastrophic effects.
Our current analysis suggests that humanity must aim for an even lower level of GHGs. Paleoclimate data and ongoing global changes indicate that slow climate feedback processes not included in most climate models, such as ice sheet disintegration, vegetation migration, and GHG release from soils, tundra or ocean sediments, may begin to come into play on time scales as short as centuries or less⁷. Rapid on-going climate changes and realization that Earth is out of energy balance, implying that more warming is in the pipeline ⁸, add urgency to investigation of the dangerous level of GHGs.
A probabilistic analysis ⁹ concluded that the long-term CO₂ limit is in the range 300-500 ppm for 25 percent risk tolerance, depending on climate sensitivity and non-CO₂ forcings. Stabilizing atmospheric CO₂ and climate requires that net CO₂ emissions approach zero, because of the long lifetime of CO₂ 10,11.
We use paleoclimate data to show that long-term climate has high sensitivity to climate forcings and that the present global mean CO₂, 385 ppm, is already in the dangerous zone. Despite rapid current CO₂ growth, ~2 ppm/year, we show that it is conceivable to reduce CO₂ this century to less than the current amount, but only via prompt policy changes.
Hansen el al fully anticipated levels would rise about 400 ppm. The idea was to keep CO₂ levels from remaining that high too long.
Everyone who cites the number 350 should understand its intent.
NNadir
(33,534 posts)...ever recorded at Mauna Loa for increases in carbon dioxide, coming in at 3.43 ppm greater than August of 2015.
This contrasts nicely with February, March, April, May and June of 2016, each of which was the absolute worst ever recorded for their respective months.
And July was a miracle, only the 3rd worst ever recorded.
The records go back 57 years so August is only in the 96% percentile at worst, not 100th percentile like February, March, April, May, and June.
So let's look at the bright side. We're improving at not being the worst ever.
We're doing wonderfully.
The average increase for all monthly figures in 2016 is "only" 3.51 ppm. Just because if this trend holds it would represent the worst year ever since, um, 2015 (3.05 ppm) doesn't mean we should panic. There's probably a very simple explanation.
hunter
(38,322 posts)Nobody's gonna slow me down
Like a wheel, gonna spin it
Nobody's gonna mess me around
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Playing in a rocking band
Hey mama, look at me
I'm on my way to the promised land, whoo!
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Let's keep those fossil fuels burning!